Family of Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE and May Beatrice JAQUES

Husband:	Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE (1879-1956)
Wife:	May Beatrice JAQUES (1894-1980)
Marriage	2 Nov 1914	Camberwell, Surrey 1

Additional Information

Marriage

Camberwell 1d 1846

Husband: Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE

	Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE		Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE, Albert Hale		Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE		Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE, Albert Hale - 217 Fitzstephen Road, Becontree

	Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE, Albert Hale and dog		Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE, Albert Hale in deckchair		Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE		Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE, Jennie (nee Hale) her husband, Ernie, Albert Hale, Ted husband of Dorrie (Nee Hale)

	Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE		Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE, Jessie Hoadly, Albert Hale and Nellie Jaques - Hornchurch

Name:	Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE
Sex:	Male
Father:	Frederick Charles HALE (1860?- )
Mother:	Jane WHITWELL (1858- )
Birth	Q1 1879	St Saviour, Newington 2,3
Occupation (1)		Lorry Driver 4
Census	5 Apr 1891 (age 4 (!))	Peckham, Surrey 2
Occupation (2)	5 Apr 1891 (age 12)	Scholar; Peckham, Surrey 2
Death	Mar 1956 (age 77)	Romford, Essex 5

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Census

13 Vaughan Place, Peckham, Surrey

Wife: May Beatrice JAQUES

	May Beatrice JAQUES, 1916, age 21		May Beatrice JAQUES, 1928, age 33		May Beatrice JAQUES, 1947, age 53		May Beatrice JAQUES

	May Beatrice JAQUES		May Beatrice JAQUES, 1929?, age 35		May Beatrice JAQUES, 1969, age 75		May Beatrice JAQUES, 1958, age 64

	May Beatrice JAQUES, 1953, age 58		May Beatrice JAQUES, May Hale Laurie or Harry Hale and Nelly Jaques

Name:	May Beatrice JAQUES
Sex:	Female
Father:	Charles Hancock JAQUES (1862-1939)
Mother:	Lucy Charlotte COOPER (1860-1949)
Birth	12 Dec 1894	Camberwell 1d 939 6,7
Education (1)	frm 20 Aug 1898 (age 3)	Cator Street School, Cator Street, Peckham, Surrey; Cator Street School, Cator Street, Peckham, Surrey 8
Education (2)		Woods Road School, Peckham 4
Census (1)	31 Mar 1901 (age 6)	Peckham, Surrey 9
Education (3)	frm 25 Aug 1902 to 18 Dec 1908 (age 7-14)	Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey; Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey 10
Census (2)	2 Apr 1911 (age 16)	Peckham, Surrey 11
Occupation	2 Apr 1911 (age 16)	Machinist Braiding; Peckham, Surrey 11
Death	Q2 1980 (age 85)	Solihull, Warwickshire 12

Additional Information

Education (1)	Cator Street School, Cator Street, Peckham, Surrey School Number: 1147 Parent: Charles Address: 12 Rosemary Road
Census (1)	186 Albert Road, Peckham, Camberwell, St Mary Magdelene, London
Education (3)	Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey School Number: 5402 Father: Charles Address: 186 Albert Road Previous School: Woods Road Infants Reason for leaving: Over Age
Census (2)	161 Gordon Road, Peckham, Surrey

Note on Husband: Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE (1) - shared note

Lodged at 185 Gordon Road, when Lucy Jaques had the house.

 

He belonged to a Liberal Club in Peckham, where he used to take May. The family were all friendly early on.

 

When Nelly came back to Peckham after Harriett, her Grandmother died, she lived with Lucy and the family. However she had no money or job, and her Mother didn't feel obliged to support her, and made this very clear.

 

 

 

Her next-door neighbour, Mrs. Warner took her to Moorfields and she had an operation to turn her eye. She also had her teeth done!

 

Albert suffered latterly from cancer, and was in terrible pain, and he died in hospital.

 

 

 

He liked to read and was fond of music. He was a good man, and they had a happy life.

Note on Husband: Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE (2)

spent the day at Kew today and in a spare five minutes, I decided to look at the HALE WW1 soldiers...(as you do!)

 

Almost immediately, I found Elbert's !! (HO 363 / H38, Page 561).

 

I haven't yet taken a copy of his service record because the queue for the copier was far too long, it being Saturday, but I've scribbled down a few personal bits & bobs which I thought would be of interest:

 

When Alexander Victor signed up on 8 Oct 1915, he went to the Grove Park Depot (later stamped approved by Whitehall) and was assigned to the Mechanical Transport Division of the Army Service Corp as Private M/2 130776. On his attestation form, his home address was shown as 6 North Terrace, Swan Lane, Whetstone, his occupation as Chauffeur and his height as 5ft 1in. and a chest measurement of 38+1/2 inches!

 

Alexander's wife was shown as May Beatrice, formerly Jacques and he had given the details of their marriage as being on the 2nd November 1914. He also showed his first child as Henry Stephen Hale, born 10 April 1915, in Finchley.

 

After signing up on 8 Oct, Alexander stayed in this Country and was not deployed until December when he was sent to France with the British Expeditionary force. He was actually sent out on Christmas Day!

 

By the time he was discharged on 20 Feb 1919 (at Wimbledon), his home address had been changed twice; the first amendment was to 161 Gordon Road, Peckham and the second amendment to 185 Gordon Road. Unfortunately, these changes were not dated.¹³

Note on Husband: Alexander Victor (WHITWELL) HALE (3)

So far no record of his birth - his name too is confusing. On his marriage he is Alexander Victor - but her was always known as Albert.

No obvious record of him in the 1881 / 91 or 01 census.

In the former two he is not with his parents Frederick and Jennie Hale.

Note on Wife: May Beatrice JAQUES - shared note

According to Nelly:

May looked after her Mother, Lucy, after they left Gordon Road.

She left Albert Hale

Despite the difficult times shared between Nelly and May, they became friends again in later years.

Sources

1	Marriage certificate.
	St Catherine's House.

2	"Census 1891 (James Hale) Peckham, Surrey RG12/483/13/17" (RG12/483/13/17). RG12/483/13/17. Cit. Date: 5 April 1891. Assessment: Primary evidence.

	Source: Census 1891 (James Hale) Peckham, Surrey RG12/483/13/17, Alexander Hale 91 (a)

3	"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Questionable. Text From Source: Births Mar 1879 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Whitwell Alexander Victor St. Saviour 1d 122
	Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).

	Source: Free BMD website, marriage certificate - Lucy Jaques Alexander Davis - 25Dec 1902

4	Taped conversation with Nelly Maude Jaques.
	Graham Hoadly.

5

"GRO Indexes". Assessment: Secondary evidence. Text From Source: England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Alexander V Hale Name: Alexander V Hale Death Registration Month/Year: Q1-Jan-Feb-Mar 1956 Age at death (estimated): 77 Registration district: Romford Inferred County: Essex Volume: 5a Page: 585

6	GRO Indexes.
	Family Records Centre, 1 Myddleton Street LONDON EC1R 1UW. Tel: 020 8392 5300.

	Source: GRO Indexes, Frederich Charles Jaques Martha Kearns Marr 1907

7	"Woods Road School, Peckham: Admission and Discharge Register" (Microfilm).
	London Metropolitan Archives, 40 Northampton Road London EC1R 0HB. Tel: 020 7332 3820.

8	Microfilm, "Cator Street School, Southwark : Admission and discharge register for girls 1888-1899 / 1899-1915". Cit. Date: 13 June 2003. Assessment: Primary evidence. Viewed by Graham Hoadly 13th June 2003
	London Metropolitan Archives, 40 Northampton Road London EC1R 0HB. Tel: 020 7332 3820.

9	"Census 1901 (Charles Hancock Jaques) Peckham, Surrey RG13/506/160/38". Assessment: Primary evidence.

	Source: Census 1901 (Charles Hancock Jaques) Peckham, Surrey RG13/506/160/38, Charles Hancock Jaques 01

10	"Woods Road School, Peckham: Admission and Discharge Register" (Microfilm). Cit. Date: from 1905 to 1920. Assessment: Primary evidence. Microfilm in London Metropolitan Archive viewed by Graham Hoadly 13th June 2003
	London Metropolitan Archives, 40 Northampton Road London EC1R 0HB. Tel: 020 7332 3820.

11	"Census 1911 (Charles Hancock Jaques) Peckham, Surrey RG14/PN2584".

	Source: Census 1911 (Charles Hancock Jaques) Peckham, Surrey RG14/PN2584, Charles Jaques 1911

12	GRO Indexes. Assessment: Secondary evidence. Text From Source: Jun 1980 May Beatrice Hale b. 12 Dec 1894 Solihull S. 34 0146
	Family Records Centre, 1 Myddleton Street LONDON EC1R 1UW. Tel: 020 8392 5300.

	Source: GRO Indexes, Frederich Charles Jaques Martha Kearns Marr 1907

13	"Email from Sue Leggett to Graham Hoadly".