Family of Thomas Harvey COOPER and Alice Eliza VOGEL

Tom COOPER's siblings: Lucy Charlotte COOPER (1860-1949), Catherine Lilian COOPER (1862-1939), Charles Frederick COOPER (1867-1899), Edith Helen COOPER (1871-1955), Harriett Clara COOPER (1873- ), Ernest COOPER (1875- ), Arthur Ebenezer COOPER (1877-1953), Elizabeth Mary COOPER (1878-1944) and Lois Rebecca COOPER (1879-1972)

Alice VOGEL's parents: John VOGEL (1832?- ) and Julia Elizabeth PIERCE (1833?- )

Alice VOGEL's siblings: Henry John VOGEL (1857- ), Anne Maria VOGEL (1859- ), Julia Elizabeth VOGEL (1861- ), Charles Albert VOGEL (1872- ), Jane Hannah VOGEL (1874- ) and John Walter VOGEL (1877- )

Husband:	Thomas Harvey COOPER (1869-1954)
Wife:	Alice Eliza VOGEL (1869- )
Children:	Astley Harvey COOPER (1890- )
	Dorothy Cecilia COOPER (1891?-1968)
	Wesley Russell COOPER (1893-1975)
	Elsie Harriett COOPER (1895-1983)
	Thomas Harvey COOPER (1900-1986)
	Constance Winifred Patricia COOPER (1905- )
Marriage	29 Sep 1889	Rotherhithe, London ^1,2,3

Additional Information

Marriage

Christ Church, Rotherhithe
St Olave 1d 509

Husband: Thomas Harvey COOPER

Name:	Thomas Harvey COOPER ⁴
Sex:	Male
Father:	Thomas Harvey COOPER (1840-1904)
Mother:	Harriett ALEFOUNDER (1840-1930)
Birth	Q2 1869	Bermondsey, Surrey ⁵
Census (1)	2 Apr 1871 (age 1)	Bermondsey, Surrey ⁶
Census (2)	3 Apr 1881 (age 11)	Camberwell, Surrey ⁷
Occupation (1)	3 Apr 1881 (age 11-12)	Scholar; Camberwell, Surrey ⁷
Occupation (2)		Glove Dyer And Cleaner
Census (3)	5 Apr 1891 (age 21)	Bermondsey, Surrey ⁸
Occupation (3)	5 Apr 1891 (age 21-22)	Warehouseman of Manchester Foods; Bermondsey, Surrey ⁸
Census (4)	31 Mar 1901 (age 31)	Camberwell, Surrey ⁹
Occupation (4)	31 Mar 1901 (age 31)	Glove Cleaner (Employer at home); Camberwell, Surrey ⁹
Census (5)	2 Apr 1911 (age 41)	Peckham, Surrey ¹⁰
Occupation (5)	2 Apr 1911 (age 41-42)	Glove Cleaner; Peckham, Surrey ¹⁰
Death	19 Feb 1954 (age 84)	Lambeth, Surrey ^11,12
Cremation	19 Feb 1954 (age 84)	Streatham, London

Additional Information

Census (1)	139, St James Road, Bermondsey, Surrey
Census (2)	67 Old Kent Rd Asylum Rd, Camberwell, Surrey
Census (3)	50 Marcia Road, Bermondsey, St George The Martyr, Southwark, Surrey
Census (4)	37 Albert Road, Camberwell, Surrey
Census (5)	2 York Road, Peckham, Surrey
Cremation	South London Crematorium, Streatham Park, Rowan Road, London SW16

Wife: Alice Eliza VOGEL


	Alice Eliza VOGEL, 1928, age 58

Name:	Alice Eliza VOGEL ¹³
Sex:	Female
Father:	John VOGEL (1832?- )
Mother:	Julia Elizabeth PIERCE (1833?- )
Birth	Q4 1869	Rotherhithe, London ^13,14
Census (1)	3 Apr 1881 (age 11)	24 Slippers Place, Rotherhithe, Surrey ¹⁵
Census (2)	5 Apr 1891 (age 21)	Bermondsey, Surrey ⁸
Census (3)	31 Mar 1901 (age 31)	Camberwell, Surrey ⁹
Census (4)	2 Apr 1911 (age 41)	Peckham, Surrey ¹⁰
Occupation	2 Apr 1911 (age 41)	Assisting to the business; Peckham, Surrey ¹⁰

Additional Information

Census (1)	24 Slippers Place, Rotherhithe, Surrey
Census (2)	50 Marcia Road, Bermondsey, St George The Martyr, Southwark, Surrey
Census (3)	37 Albert Road, Camberwell, Surrey
Census (4)	2 York Road, Peckham, Surrey

Child 1: Astley Harvey COOPER

Name:	Astley Harvey COOPER ¹³
Sex:	Male
Spouse:	Sarah J. BENNETT ( - )
Birth	Q2 1890	Peckham, London ^13,16
Census (1)	5 Apr 1891 (age 1)	Bermondsey, Surrey ⁸
Census (2)	31 Mar 1901 (age 11 (!))	Camberwell, Surrey ⁹
Census (3)	2 Apr 1911 (age 21)	Peckham, Surrey ¹⁰
Occupation	2 Apr 1911 (age 20-21)	Working in business; Peckham, Surrey ¹⁰

Additional Information

Census (1)	50 Marcia Road, Bermondsey, St George The Martyr, Southwark, Surrey
Census (2)	37 Albert Road, Camberwell, Surrey
Census (3)	2 York Road, Peckham, Surrey

Child 2: Dorothy Cecilia COOPER

Name:	Dorothy Cecilia COOPER ^13,17
Sex:	Female
Spouse:	Thomas Dean FLETCHER (1896- )
Birth	14 Dec 1891 (app)	Bermondsey, Surrey ^13,18,19
Education	frm 8 Jan 1900 to 22 Dec 1905 (age 8-14)	Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey; Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey ²⁰
Occupation (1)		Glove Cleaner
Census (1)	31 Mar 1901 (age 9)	Camberwell, Surrey ⁹
Census (2)	2 Apr 1911 (age 19)	Peckham, Surrey ¹⁰
Occupation (2)	2 Apr 1911 (age 19)	Working in business; Peckham, Surrey ¹⁰
Death	Dec 1968 (age 77)	Walsall, Staffordshire ²¹

Additional Information

Education	Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey School Number: 5006 Father: Thomas Address: 37 Albert Road Previous School: Woods Road Infants (or poss. Lower Park Road Infant dept. Not clear.) Reason for leaving: Over Age
Census (1)	37 Albert Road, Camberwell, Surrey
Census (2)	2 York Road, Peckham, Surrey

Child 3: Wesley Russell COOPER

Name:	Wesley Russell COOPER ^13,22
Sex:	Male
Birth	12 Mar 1893	Peckham, London ^13,22
Census (1)	31 Mar 1901 (age 8)	Camberwell, Surrey ⁹
Census (2)	2 Apr 1911 (age 18)	Peckham, Surrey ¹⁰
Occupation	2 Apr 1911 (age 18)	Working in business; Peckham, Surrey ¹⁰
Death	Sep 1975 (age 82)	Wolverhampton, Staffordshire ²³

Additional Information

Birth	Jun 1893 Camberwell 1d 877
Census (1)	37 Albert Road, Camberwell, Surrey
Census (2)	2 York Road, Peckham, Surrey

Child 4: Elsie Harriett COOPER


Elsie Harriett COOPER, Elsie Harriett Towell 1939	Elsie Harriett COOPER	Elsie Harriett COOPER, Dorothy Gordon & Elsie Cooper	Spouse: Arthur James TOWELL, 1939, age 48, AJ Towell1939

Name:	Elsie Harriett COOPER ^13,22
Sex:	Female
Spouse:	Arthur James TOWELL (1891-1985)
Birth	7 Sep 1895	Peckham, London ^13,19,22
Census (1)	31 Mar 1901 (age 6 (!))	Camberwell, Surrey ⁹
Education	frm 5 May 1903 to Sep 1909 (age 7-14)	Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey; Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey ²⁰
Census (2)	2 Apr 1911 (age 15)	Peckham, Surrey ¹⁰
Death	12 Mar 1983 (age 87)	Catford, Surrey ¹¹
Cremation	24 Mar 1984 (age 88)	Lewisham, London

Additional Information

Birth	Dec 1895 Camberwell 1d 837
Census (1)	37 Albert Road, Camberwell, Surrey
Education	Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey School Number: 5497 Father: Thomas Address: 37 Albert Road Previous School: Woods Road Infants Reason for leaving: Over Age
Census (2)	2 York Road, Peckham, Surrey
Cremation	Lewisham Crematorium, Lewisham, London

Child 5: Thomas Harvey COOPER

Name:	Thomas Harvey COOPER ^13,24
Sex:	Male
Birth	7 Jul 1900	Peckham, London ^13,24,25
Census (1)	31 Mar 1901 (age 8 mns)	Camberwell, Surrey ⁹
Census (2)	2 Apr 1911 (age 10)	Peckham, Surrey ¹⁰
Occupation	2 Apr 1911 (age 10)	School; Peckham, Surrey ¹⁰
Death	Apr 1986 (age 85)	Kettering, Northamptonshire ²⁵

Additional Information

Birth	Sep 1900 Camberwell 1d 911
Census (1)	37 Albert Road, Camberwell, Surrey
Census (2)	2 York Road, Peckham, Surrey

Child 6: Constance Winifred Patricia COOPER

Name:	Constance Winifred Patricia COOPER
Sex:	Female
Birth	Q4 1905	Camberwell, Surrey ²⁶
Census	2 Apr 1911 (age 5)	Peckham, Surrey ¹⁰
Occupation	2 Apr 1911 (age 5)	School; Peckham, Surrey ¹⁰

Additional Information

Census

2 York Road, Peckham, Surrey

Note on Husband: Thomas Harvey COOPER (1) - shared note

In 1881 the family were living at 67, Asylum Road, Old Kent Road, Peckham, [RG11/0691/16/25]

1901 census states that he worked from home.He had children, but Nelly couldn't remember their names.

His mother left him the Family Bible in her will in 1930 - it would be wonderful to track this down [Graham Hoadly 2005]

Note on Husband: Thomas Harvey COOPER (2)

"A bit of a bad lad" Nelly couldn't remember him.²⁷

Note on Husband: Thomas Harvey COOPER (3)

Hi again Graham,

We were in touch last year when you kindly sent me photos of Alice Cooper nee Vogel. This is just to let you know that today I received a copy of my G Grandfathers' younger brother - Arthur Edward Vogels' second marriage certificate to a Jannette Charlotte Pheley (28/8/1904) Signed as a witness is one Thomas Harvey Cooper, who would have been his brother in law.Also signed is an Emily Fish. The bride is a widow, and her father is listed as George Fish. Do you know anything about the Fish Family? Just a thought, if not hope your glad to have the info anyway!

Sincere regards, Sue Cooper

Sources

1	"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence.
	Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).


	Source: Free BMD website, marriage certificate - Lucy Jaques Alexander Davis - 25Dec 1902

"Marriage Registers, Christ Church, Rotherhithe". Assessment: Primary evidence.
Text From Source:
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Thomas Harvey Cooper
Name: Thomas Harvey Cooper
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Spouse Name: Alice Eliza Vogel
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Sep 1889
Parish: Christ Church, Rotherhithe
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Thomas Harvey Cooper
Spouse Father Name: John Vogel

Ancestry. Web: http://www.ancestry.co.uk/.

3	"Thomas Harvey Cooper & Alice Eliza Vogel 1889". Assessment: Primary evidence.

4	Taped conversation with Nelly Maude Jaques.
	Graham Hoadly.

5	"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence. Text From Source: Births Jun 1869 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cooper Thomas Harvey Bermondsey 1d 81
	Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).


	Source: Free BMD website, marriage certificate - Lucy Jaques Alexander Davis - 25Dec 1902

6	"Census 1871 (Thomas Harvey Cooper) Bermondsey, Surrey RG10/640/15/23".


	Source: Census 1871 (Thomas Harvey Cooper) Bermondsey, Surrey RG10/640/15/23, Thomas Harvey Cooper (a) 71

7	"Census 1881 (Thomas Harvey Cooper) Camberwell, Surrey RG11/0691/16/25".


	Source: Census 1881 (Thomas Harvey Cooper) Camberwell, Surrey RG11/0691/16/25, Thomas Harvey Cooper 81

8	"Census 1891 (Thomas Harvey Cooper) Bermondsey, Surrey RG12/345/55/10" (RG12/345/?/10). RG12/345/?/10. Cit. Date: 5 April 1891. Assessment: Primary evidence.


	Source: Census 1891 (Thomas Harvey Cooper) Bermondsey, Surrey RG12/345/55/10, Thomas Harvey Cooper Jnr

9	"Census 1901 (Thomas Harvey Cooper Jnr) Camberwell, Surrey RG13/514/37/25&26" (RG13/514/37/25&26). RG13/514/37/25&26. Cit. Date: 31 March 1901. Assessment: Primary evidence.


	Source: Census 1901 (Thomas Harvey Cooper Jnr) Camberwell, Surrey RG13/514/37/25&26, Thomas Harvey Cooper Jnr a 01

10	"Census 1911 (Thomas Harvey Cooper Jnr) Peckham, Surrey RG14/PN2569".


	Source: Census 1911 (Thomas Harvey Cooper Jnr) Peckham, Surrey RG14/PN2569, Thomas Harvey Cooper Jnr 1911

11	"Teresa Parsons of GenesConnected". Assessment: Secondary evidence.
	Graham Hoadly.

12	GRO Indexes. Assessment: Secondary evidence. Text From Source: Mar 1954 Cooper Thomas H 84 Lambeth 5c 1302
	Family Records Centre, 1 Myddleton Street LONDON EC1R 1UW. Tel: 020 8392 5300.


	Source: GRO Indexes, Frederich Charles Jaques Martha Kearns Marr 1907

13	Public Record Office, "www.census.pro.gov.uk - 1901 Census" (Internet).
	Internet. Call Number: http://www.census.pro.gov.uk (electronic).

14	GRO Indexes. Assessment: Secondary evidence. Text From Source: Dec 1869 Alice Eliza Vogel Rotherhithe 1d 724
	Family Records Centre, 1 Myddleton Street LONDON EC1R 1UW. Tel: 020 8392 5300.


	Source: GRO Indexes, Frederich Charles Jaques Martha Kearns Marr 1907

15	1881 census entry. RG11/0581/23. Cit. Date: 3 April 1881. Assessment: Primary evidence.

16	"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence. Text From Source: Births Jun 1890 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cooper Astley Harvey Camberwell 1d 819
	Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).


	Source: Free BMD website, marriage certificate - Lucy Jaques Alexander Davis - 25Dec 1902

17	GRO Indexes. Assessment: Secondary evidence. Text From Source: Births Mar 1892 Dorothy Cecelia Cooper St Olave 1d 251
	Family Records Centre, 1 Myddleton Street LONDON EC1R 1UW. Tel: 020 8392 5300.


	Source: GRO Indexes, Frederich Charles Jaques Martha Kearns Marr 1907

18	"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence. Text From Source: Births Mar 1892 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cooper Dorothy Cecilia St. Olave 1d 251
	Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).


	Source: Free BMD website, marriage certificate - Lucy Jaques Alexander Davis - 25Dec 1902

19	"Woods Road School, Peckham: Admission and Discharge Register" (Microfilm).
	London Metropolitan Archives, 40 Northampton Road London EC1R 0HB. Tel: 020 7332 3820.

20	Ibid. Cit. Date: from 1905 to 1920. Assessment: Primary evidence. Microfilm in London Metropolitan Archive viewed by Graham Hoadly 13th June 2003

21	"GRO Indexes".

22	"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet).
	Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).


	Source: Free BMD website, marriage certificate - Lucy Jaques Alexander Davis - 25Dec 1902

"GRO Indexes". Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source:
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Wesley Russell Cooper
Name: Wesley Russell Cooper
Birth Date: 12 Mar 1893
Death Registration Month/Year: 1975
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: West Midlands
Volume: 34
Page: 0712

24	"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence. Text From Source: Births Sep 1900 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cooper Thomas Harvey Camberwell 1d 911
	Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).


	Source: Free BMD website, marriage certificate - Lucy Jaques Alexander Davis - 25Dec 1902

25	GRO Indexes. Assessment: Questionable. Text From Source: Name: Thomas Harvey Cooper Birth Date: 7 Jul 1900 Death Registration Month/Year: Apr 1986 Age at death (estimated): 85 Registration district: Kettering Inferred County: Northamptonshire Volume: 7 Page: 2101
	Family Records Centre, 1 Myddleton Street LONDON EC1R 1UW. Tel: 020 8392 5300.


	Source: GRO Indexes, Frederich Charles Jaques Martha Kearns Marr 1907

26	"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence. Text From Source: Births Dec 1905 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cooper Constance Winifred P Camberwell 1d 892
	Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).


	Source: Free BMD website, marriage certificate - Lucy Jaques Alexander Davis - 25Dec 1902

27	Taped conversation with Nelly Maude Jaques. Assessment: Primary evidence.
	Graham Hoadly.