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Family of Thomas Harvey COOPER and Alice Eliza VOGEL

Husband: Thomas Harvey COOPER (1869-1954)
Wife: Alice Eliza VOGEL (1869- )
Children: Astley Harvey COOPER (1890-1961)
Dorothy Cecilia COOPER (c. 1891-1968)
Wesley Russell COOPER (1893-1975)
Elsie Harriett COOPER (1895-1983)
Thomas Harvey COOPER (1900-1986)
Constance Winifred Patricia COOPER (1905- )
Marriage 29 Sep 1889 Rotherhithe, London1,2,3
Christ Church, Rotherhithe
St Olave 1d 509

Husband: Thomas Harvey COOPER

Name: Thomas Harvey COOPER4
Sex: Male
Father: Thomas Harvey COOPER (1840-1904)
Mother: Harriett ALEFOUNDER (1840-1930)
Birth 2 Dec 1869 Bermondsey, Surrey5
Census 2 Apr 1871 (age 1) Bermondsey, Surrey6
139, St James Road, Bermondsey, Surrey
Census 3 Apr 1881 (age 11) Camberwell, Surrey7
67 Old Kent Rd Asylum Rd, Camberwell, Surrey
Occupation 3 Apr 1881 (age 11) Scholar; Camberwell, Surrey7
Occupation Glove Dyer And Cleaner
Census 5 Apr 1891 (age 21) Bermondsey, Surrey8
50 Marcia Road, Bermondsey, St George The Martyr, Southwark, Surrey
Occupation 5 Apr 1891 (age 21) Warehouseman of Manchester Foods; Bermondsey, Surrey8
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 31) Camberwell, Surrey9
37 Albert Road, Camberwell, Surrey
Occupation 31 Mar 1901 (age 31) Glove Cleaner (Employer at home); Camberwell, Surrey9
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 41) Peckham, Surrey10
2 York Road, Peckham, Surrey
Occupation 2 Apr 1911 (age 41) Glove Cleaner; Peckham, Surrey10
Census 29 Sep 1939 (age 69) Ongar R.D., Essex, England11
Lesser Bruers
Occupation 29 Sep 1939 (age 69) Incapacitated; Ongar R.D., Essex, England11
Death 19 Feb 1954 (age 84) Lambeth, Surrey12,13
Cremation 19 Feb 1954 Streatham, London
South London Crematorium, Streatham Park, Rowan Road, London SW16

Wife: Alice Eliza VOGEL

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Alice Eliza VOGEL, 1928, age 58

Name: Alice Eliza VOGEL14
Sex: Female
Father: John VOGEL (1832?- )
Mother: Julia Elizabeth PIERCE (1833?- )
Birth 23 Dec 1869 Rotherhithe, London14,15
Census 3 Apr 1881 (age 11) 24 Slippers Place, Rotherhithe, Surrey16
24 Slippers Place, Rotherhithe, Surrey
Census 5 Apr 1891 (age 21) Bermondsey, Surrey8
50 Marcia Road, Bermondsey, St George The Martyr, Southwark, Surrey
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 31) Camberwell, Surrey9
37 Albert Road, Camberwell, Surrey
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 41) Peckham, Surrey10
2 York Road, Peckham, Surrey
Occupation 2 Apr 1911 (age 41) Assisting to the business; Peckham, Surrey10
Census 29 Sep 1939 (age 69) Ongar R.D., Essex, England11
Lesser Bruers
Occupation 29 Sep 1939 (age 69) Unpaid Domestic Duties ; Ongar R.D., Essex, England11

Child 1: Astley Harvey COOPER

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Astley Harvey COOPER, 1939, age 49

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Astley Harvey COOPER, 1939, age 49

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Spouse: Emily Hannah EATON

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Spouse: Emily Hannah EATON

Name: Astley Harvey COOPER14
Sex: Male
Spouse 1: Louisa Jane (Sarah) BENNETT (1891-1917)
Spouse 2: Emily Hannah EATON (1892-1939)
Spouse 3: Annie WOODCOCK ( - )
Birth Q2 1890 Peckham, London14,17
Census 5 Apr 1891 (age 1) Bermondsey, Surrey8
50 Marcia Road, Bermondsey, St George The Martyr, Southwark, Surrey
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 11) Camberwell, Surrey9
37 Albert Road, Camberwell, Surrey
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 21) Peckham, Surrey10
2 York Road, Peckham, Surrey
Occupation 2 Apr 1911 (age 20-21) Working in business; Peckham, Surrey10
Death Q3 1961 (age 71) Surrey N. E.18

Child 2: Dorothy Cecilia COOPER

Name: Dorothy Cecilia COOPER14,19
Sex: Female
Spouse: Thomas Dean FLETCHER (1896- )
Birth c. 14 Dec 1891 Bermondsey, Surrey14,20,21
Education frm 8 Jan 1900 to 22 Dec 1905 (age 8-14) Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey; Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey22
Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey
School Number: 5006
Father: Thomas
Address: 37 Albert Road
Previous School: Woods Road Infants (or poss. Lower Park Road Infant dept. Not clear.)
Reason for leaving: Over Age
Occupation Glove Cleaner
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 9) Camberwell, Surrey9
37 Albert Road, Camberwell, Surrey
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 19) Peckham, Surrey10
2 York Road, Peckham, Surrey
Occupation 2 Apr 1911 (age 19) Working in business; Peckham, Surrey10
Death Dec 1968 (age 77) Walsall, Staffordshire23

Child 3: Wesley Russell COOPER

Name: Wesley Russell COOPER14,24
Sex: Male
Birth 12 Mar 1893 Peckham, London14,24
Jun 1893 Camberwell 1d 877
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 8) Camberwell, Surrey9
37 Albert Road, Camberwell, Surrey
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 18) Peckham, Surrey10
2 York Road, Peckham, Surrey
Occupation 2 Apr 1911 (age 18) Working in business; Peckham, Surrey10
Death Sep 1975 (age 82) Wolverhampton, Staffordshire25

Child 4: Elsie Harriett COOPER

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Elsie Harriett COOPER

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Spouse: Arthur James TOWELL, 1939, age 48

Name: Elsie Harriett COOPER14,24
Sex: Female
Spouse: Arthur James TOWELL (1891-1985)
Birth 7 Sep 1895 Peckham, London14,21,24
Dec 1895 Camberwell 1d 837
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 6) Camberwell, Surrey9
37 Albert Road, Camberwell, Surrey
Education frm 5 May 1903 to Sep 1909 (age 7-14) Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey; Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey22
Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey
School Number: 5497
Father: Thomas
Address: 37 Albert Road
Previous School: Woods Road Infants
Reason for leaving: Over Age
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 15) Peckham, Surrey10
2 York Road, Peckham, Surrey
Death 12 Mar 1983 (age 87) Catford, Surrey12
Cremation 24 Mar 1984 Lewisham, London
Lewisham Crematorium, Lewisham, London

Child 5: Thomas Harvey COOPER

Name: Thomas Harvey COOPER14,26
Sex: Male
Birth 7 Jul 1900 Peckham, London14,26,27
Sep 1900 Camberwell 1d 911
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 8 mns) Camberwell, Surrey9
37 Albert Road, Camberwell, Surrey
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 10) Peckham, Surrey10
2 York Road, Peckham, Surrey
Occupation 2 Apr 1911 (age 10) School; Peckham, Surrey10
Death Apr 1986 (age 85) Kettering, Northamptonshire27

Child 6: Constance Winifred Patricia COOPER

Name: Constance Winifred Patricia COOPER
Sex: Female
Birth Q4 1905 Camberwell, Surrey28
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 5) Peckham, Surrey10
2 York Road, Peckham, Surrey
Occupation 2 Apr 1911 (age 5) School; Peckham, Surrey10

Note on Husband: Thomas Harvey COOPER (1) - shared note

In 1881 the family were living at 67, Asylum Road, Old Kent Road, Peckham, [RG11/0691/16/25]

 

1901 census states that he worked from home.He had children, but Nelly couldn't remember their names.

 

His mother left him the Family Bible in her will in 1930 - it would be wonderful to track this down [Graham Hoadly 2005]

Note on Husband: Thomas Harvey COOPER (2)

"A bit of a bad lad" Nelly couldn't remember him.29

Note on Husband: Thomas Harvey COOPER (3)

Hi again Graham,

We were in touch last year when you kindly sent me photos of Alice Cooper nee Vogel. This is just to let you know that today I received a copy of my G Grandfathers' younger brother - Arthur Edward Vogels' second marriage certificate to a Jannette Charlotte Pheley (28/8/1904) Signed as a witness is one Thomas Harvey Cooper, who would have been his brother in law.Also signed is an Emily Fish. The bride is a widow, and her father is listed as George Fish. Do you know anything about the Fish Family? Just a thought, if not hope your glad to have the info anyway!

Sincere regards, Sue Cooper

Sources

1"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).
2"Marriage Registers, Christ Church, Rotherhithe". Assessment: Primary evidence.
Text From Source:
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Thomas Harvey Cooper
Name: Thomas Harvey Cooper
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Spouse Name: Alice Eliza Vogel
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Sep 1889
Parish: Christ Church, Rotherhithe
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Thomas Harvey Cooper
Spouse Father Name: John Vogel
Ancestry. Web: http://www.ancestry.co.uk/.
3"Thomas Harvey Cooper & Alice Eliza Vogel 1889". Assessment: Primary evidence.
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Source: Thomas Harvey Cooper & Alice Eliza Vogel 1889, Thomas Harvey Cooper & Alice Eliza Vogel 1889

4Taped conversation with Nelly Maude Jaques.
Text From Source: Taped conversation with Nelly Maude Jaques
Circa 1990.
Graham Hoadly.
5"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Births Jun 1869
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Cooper Thomas Harvey Bermondsey 1d 81
Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).
6"Census 1871 (Thomas Harvey Cooper) Bermondsey, Surrey RG10/640/15/23".
Text From Source: Thomas H Cooper Head 30 Surrey Camberwell
Harriet Cooper Wife 30 Middlesex Finsbury
Lucy C Cooper Daur 10 Surrey Bermondsey
Kate Cooper Daur 8 Middx London
Charles F Cooper Son 4 Surrey Bermondsey
Thomas H Cooper Son 1 Surrey Bermondsey
Baby Cooper Daur Under 1m Surrey Bermondsey
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Source: Census 1871 (Thomas Harvey Cooper) Bermondsey, Surrey RG10/640/15/23, Thomas Harvey Cooper (a) 71

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Source: Census 1871 (Thomas Harvey Cooper) Bermondsey, Surrey RG10/640/15/23, Thomas Harvey Cooper (b) 71

7"Census 1881 (Thomas Harvey Cooper) Camberwell, Surrey RG11/0691/16/25".
Text From Source: Thomas H. COOPER Head M Male 40 Camberwell Dyer And Cleaner

Harriett COOPER Wife M Female 40 Shoreditch

Lucy COOPER Daur U Female 20 Bermondsey

Kate COOPER Daur U Female 18 Asfere St

Charles COOPER Son Male 14 Bermondsey

Thomas H. COOPER Son Male 11 Bermondsey Scholar

Edith COOPER Daur Female 9 Bermondsey Scholar

Harriett C. COOPER Daur Female 7 Peckham Scholar

Ernest COOPER Son Male 5 Old Kent Rd Scholar

Arthur COOPER Son Male 4 Old Kent Rd Scholar

Elizabeth COOPER Daur Female 2 Peckham

Loes R. COOPER Daur Female 1 Peckham
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Source: Census 1881 (Thomas Harvey Cooper) Camberwell, Surrey RG11/0691/16/25, Thomas Harvey Cooper 81

8"Census 1891 (Thomas Harvey Cooper) Bermondsey, Surrey RG12/345/55/10" (RG12/345/?/10).
Text From Source: Thomas H. Cooper Head 21 Surrey Bermondsey
Alice E. Cooper Wife 21 Surrey Rotherhithe
Astley H. Cooper Son 1 Surrey Peckham
RG12/345/?/10. Cit. Date: 5 April 1891. Assessment: Primary evidence.
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Source: Census 1891 (Thomas Harvey Cooper) Bermondsey, Surrey RG12/345/55/10, Thomas Harvey Cooper Jnr

9"Census 1901 (Thomas Harvey Cooper Jnr) Camberwell, Surrey RG13/514/37/25&26" (RG13/514/37/25&26).
Text From Source: Thomas H Cooper Head 31 Surrey Bermondsey
Alice E Cooper Wife 31 Surrey Rotherhithe
Astley H Cooper Son 11 Surrey Peckham
Dorothy C Cooper Dau 9 Surrey Bermondsey
Wesley R Cooper Son 8 Surrey Peckham
Elsie H Cooper Dau 6 Surrey Peckham
Thomas H Cooper Son 8m Surrey Peckham
RG13/514/37/25&26. Cit. Date: 31 March 1901. Assessment: Primary evidence.
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Source: Census 1901 (Thomas Harvey Cooper Jnr) Camberwell, Surrey RG13/514/37/25&26, Thomas Harvey Cooper Jnr a 01

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Source: Census 1901 (Thomas Harvey Cooper Jnr) Camberwell, Surrey RG13/514/37/25&26, Thomas Harvey Cooper Jnr b 01

10"Census 1911 (Thomas Harvey Cooper Jnr) Peckham, Surrey RG14/PN2569".
Text From Source: Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born:
COOPER, THOMAS HARRY HEAD MARRIED M 41 GLOVE CLEANER LONDON
COOPER, ALICE ELIZA WIFE MARRIED 22 F 41 ASSISTING TO THE BUSINESS LONDON
COOPER, ASTLEY HARRY SON SINGLE M 21 WORKING IN BUSINESS LONDON
COOPER, DOROTHY CECILIA DAUGHTER SINGLE F 19 WORKING IN BUSINESS LONDON
COOPER, WESLEY RUSSELL SON SINGLE M 18 WORKING IN BUSINESS LONDON
COOPER, ELSIE HARRIET DAUGHTER SINGLE F 15 LONDON
COOPER, THOMAS HARRY SON M 10 SCHOOL LONDON
COOPER, CONSTANCE WINIFRED PATRICIA DAUGHTER F 5 SCHOOL LONDON
HISTED, KATE SERVANT SINGLE F 24 GENERAL SERVANT DOMESTIC LONDON
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Source: Census 1911 (Thomas Harvey Cooper Jnr) Peckham, Surrey RG14/PN2569, Thomas Harvey Cooper Jnr 1911

11"Census 1939 Ongar R.D., Essex, England RG101/1586A/017/23 Letter Code: DDRN" (RG101/1586A/017/23 Letter Code: DDRN).
Text From Source: Name of person,Status,Gender,Birthdate,Condition,Occupation,Comments
Thomas Harvey COOPER,,M,2 Dec 1869,M,Incapacitated,
Alice Eliza COOPER,,F,23 Dec 1868,M,Unpaid Domestic Duties ,
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Source: Census 1939 Ongar R.D., Essex, England RG101/1586A/017/23 Letter Code: DDRN, Census UK 1939 RG101/1586A/017/23 Letter Code: DDRN

12"Teresa Parsons of GenesConnected".
Emails etc from Teresa Parsons, Great Grandaughter of Elsie Harriett Cooper.
Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Graham Hoadly.
13GRO Indexes.
Text From Source: BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: JAMES, Benjamin
Registration District: Help St. George Hanover Square
County: London
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 343

BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: STOREY, Jane
Registration District: Help St. George Hanover Square
County: London
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 343
Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Mar 1954

Cooper Thomas H 84 Lambeth 5c 1302
Family Records Centre, 1 Myddleton Street, LONDON, EC1R 1UW. Tel: 020 8392 5300.
14Public Record Office, "www.census.pro.gov.uk - 1901 Census" (Internet).
Internet. Call Number: http://www.census.pro.gov.uk (electronic).
15GRO Indexes.
Text From Source: BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: JAMES, Benjamin
Registration District: Help St. George Hanover Square
County: London
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 343

BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: STOREY, Jane
Registration District: Help St. George Hanover Square
County: London
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 343
Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Dec 1869

Alice Eliza Vogel Rotherhithe 1d 724
Family Records Centre, 1 Myddleton Street, LONDON, EC1R 1UW. Tel: 020 8392 5300.
161881 census entry.
Text From Source: 1881 census entry PRO Chancery Lane [Microfilm]
RG11/0581/23. Cit. Date: 3 April 1881. Assessment: Primary evidence.
17"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Births Jun 1890
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Cooper Astley Harvey Camberwell 1d 819
Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).
18GRO Indexes.
Text From Source: BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: JAMES, Benjamin
Registration District: Help St. George Hanover Square
County: London
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 343

BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: STOREY, Jane
Registration District: Help St. George Hanover Square
County: London
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 343
Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source:
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Astley H Cooper
Name: Astley H Cooper
Death Registration Month/Year: 1961
Age at death (estimated): 71
Registration district: Surrey North Eastern
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 483
Family Records Centre, 1 Myddleton Street, LONDON, EC1R 1UW. Tel: 020 8392 5300.
19Ibid. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Births Mar 1892

Dorothy Cecelia Cooper St Olave 1d 251
20"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Births Mar 1892 (>99%)
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Cooper Dorothy Cecilia St. Olave 1d 251
Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).
21"Woods Road School, Peckham: Admission and Discharge Register" (Microfilm). Custom Id: X095/383.
London Metropolitan Archives, 40 Northampton Road, London, EC1R 0HB. Tel: 020 7332 3820.
22Ibid. Cit. Date: from 1905 to 1920. Assessment: Primary evidence.
Microfilm in London Metropolitan Archive viewed by Graham Hoadly 13th June 2003
23"GRO Indexes".
24"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet).
Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).
25"GRO Indexes". Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source:
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Wesley Russell Cooper
Name: Wesley Russell Cooper
Birth Date: 12 Mar 1893
Death Registration Month/Year: 1975
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: West Midlands
Volume: 34
Page: 0712
26"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Births Sep 1900
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Cooper Thomas Harvey Camberwell 1d 911
Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).
27GRO Indexes.
Text From Source: BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: JAMES, Benjamin
Registration District: Help St. George Hanover Square
County: London
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 343

BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: STOREY, Jane
Registration District: Help St. George Hanover Square
County: London
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 343
Assessment: Questionable.
Text From Source: Name: Thomas Harvey Cooper
Birth Date: 7 Jul 1900
Death Registration Month/Year: Apr 1986
Age at death (estimated): 85
Registration district: Kettering
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 7
Page: 2101
Family Records Centre, 1 Myddleton Street, LONDON, EC1R 1UW. Tel: 020 8392 5300.
28"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Births Dec 1905 (>99%)
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Cooper Constance Winifred P Camberwell 1d 892
Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).
29Taped conversation with Nelly Maude Jaques.
Text From Source: Taped conversation with Nelly Maude Jaques
Circa 1990.
Assessment: Primary evidence.
Graham Hoadly.