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Family of George JONES and Susan Till ELLIOTT

Husband: George JONES (1852?- )
Wife: Susan Till ELLIOTT (1851?- )
Marriage Q2 1889 Cardiff, Wales1

Husband: George JONES

Name: George JONES
Sex: Male
Father: -
Mother: -
Birth 1852 (cal) Yorkshire2
Census 5 Apr 1891 (age 39) Llantwit-Fardre, Pontypridd, Glamorgan2
68 Leyshon Street, Llantwit-Fardre, Pontypridd, Glamorgan
Occupation 5 Apr 1891 (age 38-39) Coal Miner; Llantwit-Fardre, Pontypridd, Glamorgan2
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 51) Ystraddyfodwg, Glamorgan3
131 Bute Street, Ystraddyfodwg, Glamorgan
Occupation 31 Mar 1901 (age 48-49) Coal Hewer; Ystraddyfodwg, Glamorgan3

Wife: Susan Till ELLIOTT

Name: Susan Till ELLIOTT
Sex: Female
Father: -
Mother: Elizabeth TILL (1818?-1908)
Birth 1851 (cal) Berkeley, Gloucestershire4
Census 7 Apr 1861 (age 10) Vowchurch, Hereford4
Common, Vowchurch, Hereford
Census 2 Apr 1871 (age 20) Hereford, Herefordshire5
1 Rye Terrace, Hereford, Herefordshire
Occupation 2 Apr 1871 (age 19-20) Servant Girl; Hereford, Herefordshire5
Census 3 Apr 1881 (age 28) Aberdare, Glamorganshire6
3 Sgybowen Cottages, Aberdare, Glamorganshire
Census 5 Apr 1891 (age 39) Llantwit-Fardre, Pontypridd, Glamorgan2
68 Leyshon Street, Llantwit-Fardre, Pontypridd, Glamorgan
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 49) Ystraddyfodwg, Glamorgan3
131 Bute Street, Ystraddyfodwg, Glamorgan

Note on Wife: Susan Till ELLIOTT

Subject : Re - Edith M CROCKER

 

Graham

 

Since I found out that Susan’s surname was Till Elliott I have established the following: -

 

John Elliott married Elizabeth Till on 18 October 1855 in Vowchurch. Both were of ‘full age’, he was a bachelor and she was a spinster. Both were servants. John’s father was Joseph Elliott – weaver; Elizabeth’s father was William Till – labourer. Source - marriage certificate.

 

I have the 1851 census on CD (obtained from the Gloucestershire Family History Society). I found Elizabeth Till 26 of the parish of Berkeley in Gloucester County Jail. Also I found TILL baby girl 1month born in Gloucester County Jail. I am sure this is the Elizabeth Till that married John Elliott and I think that the baby girl was Susan. I have requested a copy of the goal register entry for Elizabeth Till from Gloucestershire Record Office.

 

Elizabeth Till was baptised on 27 May 1821 in Berkeley, father William Till, mother Susannah – source IGI Index.

 

William Till married Susannah Peed on 27 October 1816 in Hill in Gloucestershire – source Gloucestershire Marriage Index 1800-1837 produced by GFHS.

 

A Susannah Till died in the 1849 – I have sent for the death certificate.

 

To update your records further I have the following:

 

Edith Maud Crocker was born on 14 January 1880 – birth certificate.

She married Reuben Hurcombe on 16 July 1900 – marriage certificate.

Francis Crocker was born 2 September 1848 – birth certificate.

Francis and Susan married 6 October 1875 – marriage certificate.

Francis died 28 July 1883, occupation Haulier – ‘accidental death from injuries received by being thrown out of a gig’ – source death certificate. Unfortunately no coroner’s records seemed to have survived for Aberdare. I visited The British Newspaper Library, Colindale but didn’t have much luck finding a newspaper local to Aberdare in the 1880s; I could only find a weekly journal.

 

Best wishes

 

Sandra

Sources

1"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Marriages Jun 1889
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CROCKER Susan Cardiff 11a 393
Jones George Cardiff 11a 393
Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).
2"Census 1891 (Mary Beatrice Crocker) Llantwit-Fardre, Pontypridd, Glamorgan RG12/4420/125/38".
Text From Source: George Jones Head 39 Coal Miner Yorkshire
Susan Jones Wife 39 Gloucester
Mary Beatrice Crocker Dau 10 Scholar Glamorgan Aberdare
Lizzie Crocker Dau 8 Scholar Glamorgan Aberdare
David Lewis Boarder 38 Coal Miner Monmouth Pontypool
Assessment: Primary evidence.
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Source: Census 1891 (Mary Beatrice Crocker) Llantwit-Fardre, Pontypridd, Glamorgan RG12/4420/125/38, Mary Beatrice Crocker 91

3"Census 1901 (Mary Beatrice Crocker) Ystraddyfodwg, Glamorgan RG13/5012/114/31".
Text From Source: George Jones Head 51 Coal Hewer Yorkshire
Susan Jones Wife 49 Glo'ster
Lizzie Jones Daur 18 Dressmaker Glamorgan Aberdare
Henry Applegate Son in Law 24 Coal Hewer Gloucester Westbury
Beatrice Applegate Daur 20 Glamorgan Aberdare
Violet M Applegate Gr Daur 4m Glamorgan Treherbert
Assessment: Primary evidence.
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Source: Census 1901 (Mary Beatrice Crocker) Ystraddyfodwg, Glamorgan RG13/5012/114/31, Mary Beatrice Crocker 01

4"Census 1861 (Susan Elliott) Vowchurch, Hereford RG9/11822/59/4".
Text From Source: John Elliot Head 36 Ag Lab Gloucester Berkeley
Elizabeth Elliot Wife 43 Gloucester Berkeley
Susannah Till Elliot Dau 10 Gloucester Berkeley
Mary Elliot Dau 5 Hereford Vowchurch
Assessment: Primary evidence.
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Source: Census 1861 (Susan Elliott) Vowchurch, Hereford RG9/11822/59/4, Susan Elliott 61

5"Census 1871 (Susan Elliott) Hereford, Herefordshire RG10/2699/79/17".
Text From Source: William Rowe Head 30 Commercial Traveller Devon Plymouth
Bessie Rowe Wife 23 Devon Plymouth
Florence B Rowe Dau 5m Lancs Manch'ter
Susan Elliott Servant 20 Servant Girl Gloucester
Assessment: Primary evidence.
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Source: Census 1871 (Susan Elliott) Hereford, Herefordshire RG10/2699/79/17, Susan Elliott 71

6"Census 1881 (Mary Beatrice Crocker) Aberdare, Glamorganshire RG11/5320/121/1".
Text From Source: Francis Crocker Head 32 Coachman Gloucestershire
Susan Crocker Wife 28 Gloucestershire
Edith M Crocker Dau 1 Glam Llwydcoed
Mary Crocker Dau 1wk Glam Llwydcoed
Elizabeth Elliott Mother in Law 64 Gloucestershire
Assessment: Primary evidence.
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Source: Census 1881 (Mary Beatrice Crocker) Aberdare, Glamorganshire RG11/5320/121/1, Mary Beatrice Crocker 81