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Family of William Joseph DALE and Dorothy HOADLY
| Husband: | William Joseph DALE (1894-1967) | |
| Wife: | Dorothy HOADLY (1892-1956) | |
| Children: | Dorothy Edith DALE (1921-2005) | |
| William Leonard DALE (1922-1922) | ||
| Marriage | 3 Oct 1915 | St Mark's Church, Peckham, Camberwell, Surrey 1,2 |
Husband: William Joseph DALE
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| William Joseph DALE | William Joseph DALE, 1916, age 22 | William Joseph DALE | William Joseph DALE, 1915, age 21, Dorriewe | ||||
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| William Joseph DALE | William Joseph DALE | William Joseph DALE, St Mark's Church Harders Road Peckham | ||||
| Name: | William Joseph DALE | |
| Sex: | Male | |
| Father: | William Denis DALE (1871-1916) | |
| Mother: | Elizabeth Sophia ELMER (1870?- ) | |
| Birth | Q1 1894 | Camberwell London St Giles Camberwell 3,4 |
| Census (1) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 7) | 50 Queens Road, Peckham, Camberwell, St Mark, London 3 |
| Census (2) | 2 Apr 1911 (age 17) | Peckham, London 5 |
| Occupation (1) | 2 Apr 1911 (age 17) | Apprentice to carpenter; Peckham, London 5 |
| Will | 1967 (age 72-73) | Bracknell, Berkshire 6 |
| Occupation (2) | United Phosphate And Malt Company | |
| Death | 3 Oct 1967 (age 73) | Windsor 6a 234 7 |
| Probate | 16 Feb 1968 (age 73-74) | London 6 |
Additional Information
| Birth | Mar 1894 Camberwell 1d 959 |
| Census (1) | RG13/505/127/4 |
| Census (2) | 56 Queens Road, Peckham, London SE |
| Will | "Homestead" Broad Lane Bracknell, Berkshire
William Joseph Dale of "Homestead" Broad Lane Bracknell, Berkshire died 3rd October 1967 Probate London 16th February 1968 £965 |
Wife: Dorothy HOADLY
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| Dorothy HOADLY | Dorothy HOADLY, 1916, age 24 | Dorothy HOADLY, 1895?, age 3 | Dorothy HOADLY, St Mark's Church, Harder's Road, Peckham | ||||
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| Dorothy HOADLY | Dorothy HOADLY, 1915, age 23 | Dorothy HOADLY, 1915, age 23 | Dorothy HOADLY | ||||
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| Dorothy HOADLY | Dorothy HOADLY, St Mark's Church Harders Road Peckham | |||
| Name: | Dorothy HOADLY | |
| Sex: | Female | |
| Father: | Frederick William HOADLY (1860-1946) | |
| Mother: | Sarah Jane SMITH (1855-1930) | |
| Birth | 1 May 1892 | Plumstead (Woolwich 1d 1269 ) 7,8 |
| Christening | 23 Sep 1896 (age 4) | Brixton, Surrey 9,10 |
| Education (1) | frm 7 Jan 1901 to 31 Mar 1903 (age 8-10) | Peckham Wesleyan School, Stafford Street, Peckham, Surrey; Peckham Wesleyan School, Stafford Street, Peckham, Surrey 11 |
| Census (1) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 8) | Peckham, Surrey 12 |
| Education (2) | frm 27 Apr 1903 to 12 Apr 1907 (age 10-14) | Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey; Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey 13 |
| Census (2) | 2 Apr 1911 (age 19 (!)) | Peckham, Surrey 14 |
| Occupation | 2 Apr 1911 (age 18) | Baker and Pastry Cook; Peckham, Surrey 14 |
| Death | Sep 1956 (age 64) | Ealing 5e 100 ? 7 |
Additional Information
| Christening | Saint Jude, East Brixton, Lambeth, Surrey
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Dorothy Hoadly Name: Dorothy Hoadly Record Type: Baptism Date: 23 Sep 1896 Father's Name: Frederick William Hoadly Mother's Name: Sarah Jane Hoadly Parish: Saint Jude, East Brixton Borough: Lambeth County: Middlesex |
| Education (1) | Peckham Wesleyan School, Stafford Street, Peckham, Surrey
School Number:3829 Father: Address: 198 High Street; Previous School: Woods Road Reason for leaving: Health |
| Census (1) | 198 High Street, Peckham, Surrey |
| Education (2) | Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey
School Number: 5458 Father: Frederick; Address: 198 High Street; Previous School: Weslyan; Reason for Leaving; Over Age There are two school numbers for Dorrie: the other is 5071 and under this entry the date of leaving is unclear on document - it says she left in July 1900 - does this mean the Weslyan School? [Check this] |
| Census (2) | 198 High Street, Peckham, Surrey |
Child 1: Dorothy Edith DALE
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| Dorothy Edith DALE | Dorothy Edith DALE | Dorothy Edith DALE | Dorothy Edith DALE | ||||
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| Dorothy Edith DALE | ||
| Name: | Dorothy Edith DALE | |
| Sex: | Female | |
| Birth | 11 Mar 1921 | Camberwell 1d 1472 7 |
| Education | frm 5 Jun 1928 (age 7) | Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey; Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey 15 |
| Death | 28 Dec 2005 (age 84) | Reading, Berkshire |
Additional Information
| Education | Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey
Address: 198 High Street Last School: Hownslow Date of Leaving last School: 1 June 1928 |
| Death | Cause: 1 (a) Carcinomatosis (b) Bilateral Breast Cancer
Address: Royal Berkshire Hospital, Reading, Berkshire |
Child 2: William Leonard DALE
| Name: | William Leonard DALE | |
| Sex: | Male | |
| Death | Mar 1922 (age -1 (!)) | Croydon, Surrey |
| Birth | Dec 1922 | Croydon, Surrey |
Note on Marriage
Edie was born in Dulwich. At some point the family moved to Camberwell, and then Bill and Dorrie ran a Baker's shop in West Norwood. This was eventually sold to (possibly a brother of Con) Hilkene.
Aunt Lizzie Knowles used to tell of how well the shop was doing after ? Hilkene had taken over!
From West Norwood, they moved to Hounslow. Because of Dorrie's angina they wanted to move nearer the shops, but WW2 prevented this happening, as they couldn't get a mortgage. At this stage they were near Heston Airport. The doctor recommended they move to the country, so they moved to Broad Lane, Bracknell - Edie looked after her parents there - Dorrie dying first at the age of 64, then Bill some time later. The Broad Lane properties were eventually pulled down. Edie set up home with her neighbour Jack, in Bracknell, until his death from cancer.16
Note on Husband: William Joseph DALE - shared note
Living at 56 Queen's Road, Peckham at time of his marriage.
Note on Wife: Dorothy HOADLY - shared note
According to Joyce Hoadly, Dorrie, as she was known, had a propensity to "wear hats nobody else would wear"!
She had agood sense of humour, and liked to sing.
Dorrie and Bill's marriage was witnessed by her father, Frederick William, and her sister, Eva.
She was still living at198 Peckham High Street at that time.
"Eva, I am told,was very musical and a keen pianist and apparently Dorothy had perfect pitch."16
Sources
| 1 | St Mark's Parish Register, Peckham (Microfilm at London Metropolitan Archive).
Assessment: Primary evidence.
Text From Source: 1915 Marriage Solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of St Mark Peckham in the County of Surrey. No: [?] When Married: 3rd October 1915 Name and Surname: William Joseph Dale Age: 21 Condition: Bachelor Rank or Profession: Clerk Residence at time of Marriage: 56 Queens Road Father's Name and Surname: William Denis Dale Rank or Profession of Father: Bank Officer fitter Name and Surname: Dorothy Hoadly Age: 22 Condition: Spinster Rank or Profession: - Residence at time of Marriage: 198 High Street Father's Name and Surname: Frederick William Hoadly Rank or Profession of Father: Baker Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church of England [?] This marriage was Solemnized between us: William Joseph Dale Dorothy Hoadly In the presence of us: Fredrerick William Hoadly Eva Hoadly |
| London Metropolitan Archives, 40 Northampton Road London EC1R 0HB. Tel: 020 7332 3820. |
| 2 | "Dorothy Hoadly & William Joseph Dale 1915". |
| Ancestry. Web: http://www.ancestry.co.uk/. |
| 3 | Public Record Office, "www.census.pro.gov.uk - 1901 Census" (Internet). |
| Internet. Call Number: http://www.census.pro.gov.uk (electronic). |
| 4 | "Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/"
(Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Births Mar 1894 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dale William Joseph Camberwell 1d 959 |
| Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic). |
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| Source: Free BMD website, marriage certificate - Lucy Jaques Alexander Davis - 25Dec 1902 | |
| 5 | "Census 1911 (William Denis Dale) Peckham, London RG14/PN2577". |
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| Source: Census 1911 (William Denis Dale) Peckham, London RG14/PN2577, William Dennis Dale 1911 | |
| 6 | "Probate Indexes". |
| Principal Registry Family Division, First Avenue House 42-49 High Holborn LONDON WC1V 6NP. Tel: 020 7947 6946. |
| 7 | GRO Indexes. |
| Family Records Centre, 1 Myddleton Street LONDON EC1R 1UW. Tel: 020 8392 5300. |
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| Source: GRO Indexes, Frederich Charles Jaques Martha Kearns Marr 1907 | |
| 8 | "Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/"
(Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Births Jun 1892 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hoadly Dorothy Woolwich 1d 1269 |
| Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic). |
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| Source: Free BMD website, marriage certificate - Lucy Jaques Alexander Davis - 25Dec 1902 | |
| 9 | "Baptismal Registers of Saint Jude, East Brixton, Lambeth, Surrey". |
| Ancestry. Web: http://www.ancestry.co.uk/. |
| 10 | "Bill, Len, Eva & Dorrie Hoadly 1896". Assessment: Primary evidence. |
| Ancestry. Web: http://www.ancestry.co.uk/. |
| 11 | "Peckham Wesleyan School, Stafford Street, Peckham, Surrey" (Admission and discharge register for girls). Cit. Date: from 1900 to 1907. Assessment: Primary evidence. |
| London Metropolitan Archives, 40 Northampton Road London EC1R 0HB. Tel: 020 7332 3820. |
| 12 | "Census 1901 (Frederick William Hoadly) Peckham, Surrey RG13/514/30/11". Assessment: Primary evidence. |
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| Source: Census 1901 (Frederick William Hoadly) Peckham, Surrey RG13/514/30/11, Frederick William Hoadly a 01 | |
| 13 | "Woods Road School, Peckham: Admission and Discharge Register" (Microfilm).
Cit. Date: from 1889 to 1895. Assessment: Primary evidence.
Viewed at London Metropolitan Archive 13th June 2003 by Graham Hoadly |
| London Metropolitan Archives, 40 Northampton Road London EC1R 0HB. Tel: 020 7332 3820. |
| 14 | "Census 1911 (Frederick William Hoadly) Peckham, Surrey RG14/PN2576". |
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| Source: Census 1911 (Frederick William Hoadly) Peckham, Surrey RG14/PN2576, F W Hoadly Snr 1911 | |
| 15 | "Woods Road School, Peckham: Admission and Discharge Register" (Microfilm).
Cit. Date: from 1920 to 1938. Assessment: Primary evidence.
Microfilm at London Metropolitan Archive viewed by Graham Hoadly 13th June 2003 - Film Ref: X095/383 |
| London Metropolitan Archives, 40 Northampton Road London EC1R 0HB. Tel: 020 7332 3820. |
| 16 | Dorothy Edith Dale, "Information supplied by Edie Dale". |
| Graham Hoadly. |