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Family of William Joseph DALE and Dorothy HOADLY

Husband: William Joseph DALE (1894-1967)
Wife: Dorothy HOADLY (1892-1956)
Children: Dorothy Edith DALE (1921-2005)
William Leonard DALE (1921-1922)
Marriage 3 Oct 1915 St Mark's Church, Peckham, Camberwell, Surrey1,2

Husband: William Joseph DALE

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William Joseph DALE

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William Joseph DALE, 1916, age 22

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William Joseph DALE

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William Joseph DALE, 1915, age 21

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William Joseph DALE

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William Joseph DALE

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William Joseph DALE

Name: William Joseph DALE
Sex: Male
Father: William Denis DALE (1871-1916)
Mother: Elizabeth Sophia ELMER (1869- )
Birth 1 Feb 1894 Camberwell London St Giles Camberwell3,4
Mar 1894 Camberwell 1d 959
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 7) 50 Queens Road, Peckham, Camberwell, St Mark, London3
RG13/505/127/4
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 17) Peckham, London5
56 Queens Road, Peckham, London SE
Occupation 2 Apr 1911 (age 17) Apprentice to carpenter; Peckham, London5
Census 29 Sep 1939 (age 45) Easthampstead R.D., Berkshire, England6
Rosemary Locks Ride
Occupation 29 Sep 1939 (age 45) Commercial Traveller Selling ? Materials To Baking Confectionery & Catering Trades; Easthampstead R.D., Berkshire, England6
Will 1967 (age 72-73) Bracknell, Berkshire7
"Homestead" Broad Lane Bracknell, Berkshire
William Joseph Dale of
"Homestead" Broad Lane Bracknell, Berkshire
died 3rd October 1967
Probate London 16th February 1968

£965
Occupation United Phosphate And Malt Company
Death 3 Oct 1967 (age 73) Windsor 6a 2348
Probate 16 Feb 1968 London7

Wife: Dorothy HOADLY

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Dorothy HOADLY

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Dorothy HOADLY, 1916, age 24

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Dorothy HOADLY, c. 1895, age 3

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Dorothy HOADLY, 1915, age 23

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Dorothy HOADLY, 1915, age 23

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Dorothy HOADLY

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Dorothy HOADLY

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Dorothy HOADLY

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Dorothy HOADLY, 1916, age 24

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Dorothy HOADLY, c. 1912, age 20

Name: Dorothy HOADLY
Sex: Female
Father: Frederick William HOADLY (1860-1946)
Mother: Sarah Jane SMITH (1855-1930)
Birth 1 May 1892 Plumstead (Woolwich 1d 1269 )8,9
Christening 23 Sep 1896 (age 4) Brixton, Surrey10,11
Saint Jude, East Brixton, Lambeth, Surrey

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Dorothy Hoadly
Name: Dorothy Hoadly
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 23 Sep 1896
Father's Name: Frederick William Hoadly
Mother's Name: Sarah Jane Hoadly
Parish: Saint Jude, East Brixton
Borough: Lambeth
County: Middlesex
Education frm 7 Jan 1901 to 31 Mar 1903 (age 8-10) Peckham Wesleyan School, Stafford Street, Peckham, Surrey; Peckham Wesleyan School, Stafford Street, Peckham, Surrey12
Peckham Wesleyan School, Stafford Street, Peckham, Surrey
School Number:3829
Father:
Address: 198 High Street;
Previous School: Woods Road
Reason for leaving: Health
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 8) Peckham, Surrey13
198 High Street, Peckham, Surrey
Education frm 27 Apr 1903 to 12 Apr 1907 (age 10-14) Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey; Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey14
Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey
Woods Road School (0543) opened in 1881. Renamed John Donne Primary School in 1951

School Number: 5458
Father: Frederick;
Address: 198 High Street;
Previous School: Weslyan;
Reason for Leaving; Over Age

There are two school numbers for Dorrie: the other is 5071 and under this entry the date of leaving is unclear on document - it says she left in July 1900 - does this mean the Weslyan School? [Check this]
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 19) Peckham, Surrey15
198 High Street, Peckham, Surrey
Occupation 2 Apr 1911 (age 18) Baker and Pastry Cook; Peckham, Surrey15
Census 29 Sep 1939 (age 47) Easthampstead R.D., Berkshire, England6
Rosemary Locks Ride
Occupation 29 Sep 1939 (age 47) Unpaid Domestic Duties; Easthampstead R.D., Berkshire, England6
Death Sep 1956 (age 64) Ealing 5e 100 ?8

Child 1: Dorothy Edith DALE

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Dorothy Edith DALE

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Dorothy Edith DALE

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Dorothy Edith DALE

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Dorothy Edith DALE

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Dorothy Edith DALE

Name: Dorothy Edith DALE
Sex: Female
Birth 11 Mar 1921 Camberwell 1d 14728
Education frm 5 Jun 1928 (age 7) Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey; Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey16
Woods Road School, Harders Road, Peckham, Surrey
Address: 198 High Street
Last School: Hownslow
Date of Leaving last School: 1 June 1928
Census 29 Sep 1939 (age 18) Easthampstead R.D., Berkshire, England6
Rosemary Locks Ride
Death 28 Dec 2005 (age 84) Reading, Berkshire
Cause: 1 (a) Carcinomatosis (b) Bilateral Breast Cancer
Address: Royal Berkshire Hospital, Reading, Berkshire

Child 2: William Leonard DALE

Name: William Leonard DALE
Sex: Male
Birth Dec 1921 Croydon, Surrey
Death Mar 1922 (age 0) Croydon, Surrey

Note on Marriage

Edie was born in Dulwich. At some point the family moved to Camberwell, and then Bill and Dorrie ran a Baker's shop in West Norwood. This was eventually sold to (possibly a brother of Con) Hilkene.

Aunt Lizzie Knowles used to tell of how well the shop was doing after ? Hilkene had taken over!

From West Norwood, they moved to Hounslow. Because of Dorrie's angina they wanted to move nearer the shops, but WW2 prevented this happening, as they couldn't get a mortgage. At this stage they were near Heston Airport. The doctor recommended they move to the country, so they moved to Broad Lane, Bracknell - Edie looked after her parents there - Dorrie dying first at the age of 64, then Bill some time later. The Broad Lane properties were eventually pulled down. Edie set up home with her neighbour Jack, in Bracknell, until his death from cancer.17

Note on Husband: William Joseph DALE - shared note

Living at 56 Queen's Road, Peckham at time of his marriage.

Note on Wife: Dorothy HOADLY - shared note

According to Joyce Hoadly, Dorrie, as she was known, had a propensity to "wear hats nobody else would wear"!

 

She had agood sense of humour, and liked to sing.

 

Dorrie and Bill's marriage was witnessed by her father, Frederick William, and her sister, Eva.

 

She was still living at198 Peckham High Street at that time.

 

"Eva, I am told,was very musical and a keen pianist and apparently Dorothy had perfect pitch."17

Sources

1St Mark's Parish Register, Peckham (Microfilm at London Metropolitan Archive).
Text From Source: St Mark's Parish Register, Peckham
Assessment: Primary evidence.
Text From Source: 1915 Marriage Solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of St Mark Peckham in the County of Surrey.
No: [?]
When Married: 3rd October 1915
Name and Surname: William Joseph Dale
Age: 21
Condition: Bachelor
Rank or Profession: Clerk
Residence at time of Marriage: 56 Queens Road
Father's Name and Surname: William Denis Dale
Rank or Profession of Father: Bank Officer fitter
Name and Surname: Dorothy Hoadly
Age: 22
Condition: Spinster
Rank or Profession: -
Residence at time of Marriage: 198 High Street
Father's Name and Surname: Frederick William Hoadly
Rank or Profession of Father: Baker

Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church of England [?]

This marriage was Solemnized between us: William Joseph Dale
Dorothy Hoadly

In the presence of us: Fredrerick William Hoadly
Eva Hoadly
London Metropolitan Archives, 40 Northampton Road, London, EC1R 0HB. Tel: 020 7332 3820.
2"Dorothy Hoadly & William Joseph Dale 1915".
Ancestry. Web: http://www.ancestry.co.uk/.
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Source: Dorothy Hoadly & William Joseph Dale 1915, Dorothy Hoadly & William Joseph Dale 1915

3Public Record Office, "www.census.pro.gov.uk - 1901 Census" (Internet).
Internet. Call Number: http://www.census.pro.gov.uk (electronic).
4"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Births Mar 1894
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Dale William Joseph Camberwell 1d 959
Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).
5"Census 1911 (William Denis Dale) Peckham, London RG14/PN2577".
Text From Source: Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born:
DALE, WILLIAM DENNIS HEAD MARRIED M 39 BUILDER MIDDLESEX LINCOLNSHIRE
DALE, ELIZABETH SOPHIA WIFE MARRIED 18 F 41 GREENWICH LONDON
DALE, SARAH HEADS MOTHER WIDOW F 78 UPPER GROUND ST LONDON
DALE, WILLIAM JOSEPH SON SINGLE M 17 APPRENTICE TO CARPENTER PECKHAM LONDON
DALE, ELLEN SARAH DAUGHTER SINGLE F 16 TYPIST BUILOERS OFFICE PECKHAM LONDON
DALE, DENIS ELMER SON M 14 SCHOOL PECKHAM LONDON
DALE, SOPHIA EDITH DAUGHTER F 12 SCHOOL PECKHAM LONDON
DALE, PATRICT THOMAL SON M 8 SCHOOL PECKHAM LONDON
DALE, KATHLEEN ELIZABETH DAUGHTER F 6 SCHOOL PECKHAM LONDON
DALE, MARIE GERTRUDE DAUGHTER F 2 PECKHAM LONDON
WILLIAM, CHARLES ELMER NEPHEW SINGLE M 20 WAREHOUSEMAN DRAPERY PECKHAM LONDON
PAUL, GERTRUDE SERVANT SINGLE F 19 DOMESTIC SERVANT HALTEHAM LONDON

DALE WILLIAM JOSEPH (RG14PN2577 RG78PN87 RD27 SD6 ED7 SN24)
Address 56 QUEENS RD PECKHAM S E County London
District Camberwell Subdistrict Peckham South
Enumeration District 7 Parish Camberwell
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Source: Census 1911 (William Denis Dale) Peckham, London RG14/PN2577, William Dennis Dale 1911

6"Census 1939 Easthampstead R.D., Berkshire, England RG101/2077A/020/6 Letter Code: DUGK" (RG101/2077A/020/6 Letter Code: DUGK).
Text From Source: Name of person,Married name,Gender,Birthdate,Condition as to marriage,Rank, Profession or Occupation,Occupation comment,Comments
William Joseph DALE,,M,1 FEB 1894,Married,Commercial Traveller Selling ? Materials To Baking Confectionery & Catering Trades,,
Dorothy DALE,,F,1 MAY 1892,Married,Unpaid Domestic Duties,,
Dorothy Edith DALE,,F,11 MAR 1921,,,,[Redacted 2016]
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Source: Census 1939 Easthampstead R.D., Berkshire, England RG101/2077A/020/6 Letter Code: DUGK, Census UK 1939 RG101/2077A/020/6 Letter Code: DUGK

7"Probate Indexes".
Principal Registry of the Family Division
Principal Probate Registry
First Avenue House
42-49 High Holborn
LONDON
WC1V 6NP

Visited by Graham Hoadly 20 June 2005.
Principal Registry Family Division, First Avenue House, 42-49 High Holborn, LONDON, WC1V 6NP. Tel: 020 7947 6946.
8GRO Indexes.
Text From Source: BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: JAMES, Benjamin
Registration District: Help St. George Hanover Square
County: London
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 343

BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: STOREY, Jane
Registration District: Help St. George Hanover Square
County: London
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 343
Family Records Centre, 1 Myddleton Street, LONDON, EC1R 1UW. Tel: 020 8392 5300.
9"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Births Jun 1892 (>99%)
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Hoadly Dorothy Woolwich 1d 1269
Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).
10"Baptismal Registers of Saint Jude, East Brixton, Lambeth, Surrey".
Ancestry. Web: http://www.ancestry.co.uk/.
11"Bill, Len, Eva & Dorrie Hoadly 1896". Assessment: Primary evidence.
Ancestry. Web: http://www.ancestry.co.uk/.
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Source: Bill, Len, Eva & Dorrie Hoadly 1896, Bill, Len, Eva & Dorrie Hoadly 1896

12"Peckham Wesleyan School, Stafford Street, Peckham, Surrey" (Admission and discharge register for girls). Custom Id: EO/DIV7/Pec 4/A-D/3.
Original Register viewed by Graham Hoadly 17th June 2003 at London Metropolitan Archives.
Cit. Date: from 1900 to 1907. Assessment: Primary evidence.
London Metropolitan Archives, 40 Northampton Road, London, EC1R 0HB. Tel: 020 7332 3820.
13"Census 1901 (Frederick William Hoadly) Peckham, Surrey RG13/514/30/11".
Text From Source: Frederick Hoadly Head 40 Kent Folkestone
Sarah Hoadly Wife 44 Warwick Coleshill
John Hoadly Son 18 Lond. Forest Hill
William Hoadly Son 13 Kent Bosely Heath
Leonard Hoadly Son 11 Kent Plumstead
Dorothy Hoadly Dau 8 Kent Plumstead
Eva Hoadly Dau 7 Kent Plumstead
Emma Walkeley Servant 17 Loughborough
Alice Mould Servant 22 Walthamstow Essex
Assessment: Primary evidence.
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Source: Census 1901 (Frederick William Hoadly) Peckham, Surrey RG13/514/30/11, Frederick William Hoadly a 01

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Source: Census 1901 (Frederick William Hoadly) Peckham, Surrey RG13/514/30/11, Frederick William Hoadly b 01

14"Woods Road School, Peckham: Admission and Discharge Register" (Microfilm). Custom Id: X095/383. Cit. Date: from 1889 to 1895. Assessment: Primary evidence.
Viewed at London Metropolitan Archive 13th June 2003 by Graham Hoadly
London Metropolitan Archives, 40 Northampton Road, London, EC1R 0HB. Tel: 020 7332 3820.
15"Census 1911 (Frederick William Hoadly) Peckham, Surrey RG14/PN2576".
Text From Source: Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born:
HOADLEY, FREDERICK HEAD MARRIED 30 M 51 BAKER AND PASTRY COOK FOLKESTONE KENT
HOADLEY, SARAH WIFE MARRIED F 55 BAKER AND PASTRY COOK COLES HILL WARWICKSHIRE
HOADLEY, WILLIAM SON SINGLE M 23 BAKER AND PASTRY COOK BOXLEY HEATH KENT
HOADLEY, LEONARD SON SINGLE M 21 BAKER AND PASTRY COOK PLUMSTEAD KENT
HOADLEY, DOROTHY DAUGHTER SINGLE F 19 BAKER AND PASTRY COOK PLUMSTEAD KENT
HOADLEY, EVA DAUGHTER SINGLE F 17 BAKER AND PASTRY COOK PLUMSTEAD KENT
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Source: Census 1911 (Frederick William Hoadly) Peckham, Surrey RG14/PN2576, F W Hoadly Snr 1911

16"Woods Road School, Peckham: Admission and Discharge Register" (Microfilm). Custom Id: X095/383. Cit. Date: from 1920 to 1938. Assessment: Primary evidence.
Microfilm at London Metropolitan Archive viewed by Graham Hoadly 13th June 2003 -
Film Ref: X095/383
London Metropolitan Archives, 40 Northampton Road, London, EC1R 0HB. Tel: 020 7332 3820.
17Dorothy Edith Dale, "Information supplied by Edie Dale".
Text From Source: Information supplied by Edie Dale
Graham Hoadly.