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Family of John Trevor Victor ROBERTS and Myrtle ORCHARD

Husband: John Trevor Victor ROBERTS (1900-1982)
Wife: Myrtle ORCHARD (1902-1987)
Marriage 28 Apr 1934 Shrewsbury, Shropshire1
Register Office, Shrewsbury, Shropshire

Husband: John Trevor Victor ROBERTS

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John Trevor Victor ROBERTS, c. 1920, age 20

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John Trevor Victor ROBERTS, c. 1933, age 33

Name: John Trevor Victor ROBERTS
Sex: Male
Father: Robert Morgan ROBERTS (1855-1943)
Mother: Ann JONES (1858-1934)
Birth 21 Oct 1900 Glyndwr Place, 6, New Street, Frankwell, Shrewsbury, Salop2
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 5 mns) Shrewsbury, Shropshire3
6 New Street, Frankwell, Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Occupation Admin.
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 10) Shrewsbury, Shropshire4
4 Victoria Street, Castlefields, Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Occupation 2 Apr 1911 (age 10) School; Shrewsbury, Shropshire4
Census 29 Sep 1939 (age 38) Shrewsbury M.B., Shropshire, England5
9 Victoria Street
Occupation 29 Sep 1939 (age 38) Senior Clerk Engineering Works Accounts Representative; Shrewsbury M.B., Shropshire, England5
Death 10 Dec 1982 (age 82) Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Hospital at Cross Houses, Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Burial Shrewsbury, Shropshire6
New Cemetery, Shrewsbury, Shropshire

Wife: Myrtle ORCHARD

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Myrtle ORCHARD, c. 1932, age 30

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Myrtle ORCHARD, 1907, age 5

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Myrtle ORCHARD, c. 1933, age 31

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Myrtle ORCHARD, 1929, age 27

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Myrtle ORCHARD, 1921, age 19

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Name: Myrtle ORCHARD
Sex: Female
Nickname: Mike
Father: Frederick William ORCHARD (1868-1925)
Mother: May HENDRICK (1876-1958)
Birth 23 Mar 1902 Ellesmere, Shropshire7
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 9) Cork, Ireland8
5 Tuckey Street, Cork, County Cork, Ireland
Occupation 2 Apr 1911 (age 9) Scholar; Cork, Ireland8
Religion 2 Apr 1911 (age 9) Roman Catholic8
Emigration 13 Oct 1927 (age 25) from Liverpool, Lancs. to New York, N.Y., USA9
Kingston House, St Alkmund's Square, Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Census 29 Sep 1939 (age 37) Shrewsbury M.B., Shropshire, England5
9 Victoria Street
Occupation 29 Sep 1939 (age 37) Unpaid Domestic Duties; Shrewsbury M.B., Shropshire, England5
Death 24 Jul 1987 (age 85) Shifnal, Shropshire
Cottage Hospital, Shifnal, Shropshire
Burial 31 Jul 1987 Shrewsbury, Shropshire
New Cemetery, Shrewsbury, Shropshire

Note on Husband: John Trevor Victor ROBERTS (1) - shared note

Known as Trevor.

Born at 1.00, and baptised by the Rev. Robert Morris.

Played the piano, and liked to draw.

Wilding's Directory for Shewsbury has Trevor at 9 Victoria Street from 1940.

Trevor and Myrtle had no children, although she had two from her previous marriage.

Note on Husband: John Trevor Victor ROBERTS (2)

At marriage was clerk at Sentinel Wagon Works6

Note on Husband: John Trevor Victor ROBERTS (3)

Honeymoon in Blackpool.

First home after he married Myrtle was 20 Benyon Street in 1934.6

Note on Wife: Myrtle ORCHARD (1) - shared note

Had two children from her first marriage.

Took Chris to a big hotel in London where he met his father Reg - Chris's aunt Nell took him to the zoo while Myrtle and Reg sorted their divorce. I.E. circa 1931 / 2.

This was the only time he ever met Reg until he was grown up.

Note on Wife: Myrtle ORCHARD (2)

Myrtle born Brownlow Rd Ellesmere.

From there back to Cork

Back to Shrewsbury circa 1915 - living at Charnwood Copthorne Rd.

Married Reg - lived in a village outside Shrewsbury where he was a signalman.

After Maureen born they moved to New York - Reg became private secretary to Mrs Reginald de Koven - on Park Avenue.

She Mrs de K kept the house as a shrine to he husband.

The family lived in - no place for a child so Maureen was sent to live with a Nelly Davis in New Jersey which upset Myrtle.

Myrtle had to act as a maid which she didn't care for a bit.

In 1928 was pregnant with Chris - so she decided to return to her own mother in UK.

Ostensibly, Reg was supposed to get another job or arrange living accomodation - but this didn't happen.

So Myrtle sailed back in 1928 - she didn't like New York, or her father in law who was a butler but probably mixed up in bootlegging.

When she returned she lived at the family home - Kingston House in St Alkmund Square.

They moved from there about 1931 to 26 Victoria Street.

When she married Trevor in 1934 - they went to 20 Benyon Street, whilst Maureen and Chris remained at 26 Victoria Street.

In 1937 Chris Maureen joined their parents in 12 First Terrace.

Freddie Steele was killed by a bus on the Comet Bridge Ditherington, (1938ish) and that prompted Myrtle to move away as it was dangerous there.

By 1939 they had moved to 9 Victoria Street. Owned by Mr Cock the baker.

Rented (12/6 a week)- couldn't buy due of housing shortage during war.

House deteriorated - couldn't get repairs done - Cock went bankrupt so house went up for sale by which time they were sitting tenants.

Chris bought number 9 for his parents in late 50s early 60s.

Trevor had to go to hospital .

Neighbours looked in to check on the couple.

Chris found both collapsed one day - both made to go to hospital.

Trevor died in hospital, and Myrtle unable to look after herself had to remain in hospital.6

Note on Wife: Myrtle ORCHARD (3)

Anna de Koven

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Anna Farwell de Koven (November 19, 1862 - January 12, 1953) was an American novelist, historian and socialite. The wife of famed composer Reginald de Koven and the daughter of senator Charles B. Farwell, she published her works as Mrs. Reginald de Koven. A well-known society hostess, she and her husband gave many musical receptions while living in their home in Irving Place in New York. An amateur athlete, she wrote in Good Housekeeping that "no sport is too reckless, too daring, or too strenuous for the more experienced among athletic American women."[1] Her novels included 1895's a Sawdust Doll, published by Stone and Kimball as part of "the Peacock Library." Her non-fictional works included a two-volume biography of John Paul Jones, published in 1913, and a study of spiritualism entitled a Cloud of Witnesses published in 1920.

 

Reginald de Koven

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Reginald de Koven in 1904Henry Louis Reginald De Koven (April 3, 1859 – January 16, 1920) was an American music critic and prolific composer, particularly of comic operas.

 

 

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De Koven was born in Middletown, Connecticut, and moved to Europe in 1870, where he received the majority of his education. He graduated from St John's College of Oxford University in England in 1879. He undertook various musical studies at Stuttgart with Speidel and with Lebert and Pruckner. He studied composition at Frankfurt with Dr. Hauff, and after staying there for six months moved on to Florence, Italy, where he studied singing with Vanuccini. Study in operatic composition followed, first with Richard Genée, in Vienna, and then with Léo Delibes, in Paris.

 

De Koven returned to the U.S. in 1882 to live in Chicago, Illinois, and later lived in New York. He was able to find scope for his wide musical knowledge as a critic with Chicago's Evening Post, Harper's Weekly and New York World. Many of his songs became popular, especially "Oh Promise Me", with words by Clement Scott, which was one of the biggest song successes of its time and remains a wedding standard.

 

Between 1887 and 1913, de Koven composed 20 light operas, in addition to hundreds of songs, orchestral works, sonatas and ballets. While Victor Herbert's operettas were heavily influencedy by those of continental operetta composers, De Koven's works were patterned after Gilbert and Sullivan.[1] His greatest success was Robin Hood, which premiered in Chicago in 1890 but was performed all across the country.[2] It played in New York at the Standard Theatre and in London, in 1891, and at New York's Garden Theatre in 1892. His other operettas included The Fencing Master (1892, Casino Theatre, New York); The Algerian (1893, Garden Theatre, New York); Rob Roy, first produced in Detroit, Michigan, 1894;[3] The Mandarin, produced in Cleveland, Ohio in 1896; The Highwayman (1897, Herald Square Theatre, New York)[4] and Maid Marian (1901 Garden Theatre, New York). Harry B. Smith wrote the libretti for many of his comic operas.

 

From 1902 to 1904, de Koven conducted the Washington, D.C. symphony. His wife, Anna de Koven, was a well-known socialite, novelist and amateur historian who published her works under the name "Mrs. Reginald de Koven." The music press doubted that de Koven could compose serious operas. His opera The Canterbury Pilgrims (with a libretto by poet and dramatist Percy MacKaye) premiered at the Metropolitan Opera in 1917.[5] He composed a second opera, Rip Van Winkle (also with a libretto by MacKaye) prior to his death but was unable to see it performed in 1920 in Chicago.

 

One obituary read: he proved that "the American stage was not dependent upon foreign composers."

 

The Reginald and Anna DeKoven House, at 1025 Park Avenue, was built by John Russell Pope in 1912 for light-opera composer Reginald DeKoven and his wife, the writer Anna de Koven. The brick and limestone mansion is designed in Jacobean Revival style.

 

The Reginald and Anna DeKoven House was designated a landmark by the New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission in 1986.

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1GRO Indexes.
Text From Source: BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: JAMES, Benjamin
Registration District: Help St. George Hanover Square
County: London
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 343

BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: STOREY, Jane
Registration District: Help St. George Hanover Square
County: London
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 343
Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Jun 1934

Trevor V,. Roberts
Myrtle Ellis or Orchard

Atcham 6a 1647
Family Records Centre, 1 Myddleton Street, LONDON, EC1R 1UW. Tel: 020 8392 5300.
2"Family bible inscribed "To Robert Roberts the gift of Miss [?] 1867"".
Text From Source: [Inscribed on the inside front cover]:

Robert Roberts
The gift of
Miss [?] [?]
1867

Baptized by Rev. W. Hinton Jones Mon [does this refer to Robert Eric Roberts? it is written opposite to the entry for Robert Eric]

[Written on inside front flyleaf]:

Ages of Family

Father - November 28th 1814
Mother - January 18th 1818
Jane - January 2nd 1841
Anne - March 29th 1845
William - December 29th 1847
Matilda - February 6th 1854
Robert Morgan - November 30th 1855, at half past 11 in forenoon
married 3rd November 1879 to Annie [the letter "i" later crossed out] Jones, Born May 5th 1858.
Mary Matilda Maggie Jane, Born July 21st, 1880, at 10 min to 5 o'clock in the morning. Wed. Friday [Friday crossed out]
William Evan Morgan Roberts Born March 16th, 1882 Wed. at 4 o'clock in the afternoon
Robert Eric Roberts, born July 17th 1890 at a ¼ to 4 in the Afternoon at Glyndwr Place

[Written on inside back flyleaf]:

Deaths:

Matilda Louisa Gordon died February 18th 1878, aged 24
William Roberts died at Commercial Street, Newtown, December 7, 1889 aged 75
Mother (Jane) Sept 6, 1911 aged 94
Jane Jones, Cymric Cottage, Canal, Newtown, Sept 21, 1911 aged 70
John Jones Nov. 23, 1911, aged 77 Do. [refers to the address at Cymric Cottage]
Annie James, Croesawdy, New Road, Newtown,
William Owen Roberts, Llanfair Road, Newtown, Jany. 10, 1927, aged 79
Mary Matilda Maggie Jane Roberts, died May 25th, 1932, at Berrington Hospital aged 51
Anne Roberts died 11th March 1934 4.30 pm

[Inscribed on the inside back cover]:

Robert Roberts
The gift of
Miss [?] [?]
1867
Glyn Roberts.
3"Census 1901 (Robert Morgan Roberts) Shrewsbury, Shropshire RG13/2540/140/34".
Text From Source: Robert M L ROBERTS M 45 Printer Newtown, Montgomery
Anne ROBERTS M 42 Dolanog, Llanfihangel, Montgomery
Mary M.M.J.ROBERTS S 20 Shorthand Clerk Shrewsbury Salop
William E M ROBERTS S 19 Manager Shrewsbury Salop
Robert E ROBERTS S 10 Shrewsbury Salop
Archibald L ROBERTS S 8
John Trevor V ROBERTS S 5m
Assessment: Primary evidence.
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Source: Census 1901 (Robert Morgan Roberts) Shrewsbury, Shropshire RG13/2540/140/34, Robert Morgan Roberts 01

4"Census 1911 (Robert Morgan Roberts) Shrewsbury, Shropshire RG14/14PN16071".
Text From Source: Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born:
ROBERTS, ROBERT MORGAN HEAD MARRIED M 55 MASTER PRINTER MONTGOMERYSHIRE NEWTOWN
ROBERTS, ANNE WIFE MARRIED 31 F 52 MONTGOMERYSHIRE LLANFIHANGEL
ROBERTS, HILDA M DAUGHTER SINGLE F 30 SHORTHAND TYPIST SHROPSHIRE SHREWSBURY
ROBERTS, ROBERT ERIC SON SINGLE M 20 CLERK GASWORKS SHROPSHIRE SHREWSBURY
ROBERTS, ARCHIBALD L SON SINGLE M 18 IRONMONGERS CLERK SHROPSHIRE SHREWSBURY
ROBERTS, IREVOR V SON M 10 SCHOOL SHROPSHIRE SHREWSBURY
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Source: Census 1911 (Robert Morgan Roberts) Shrewsbury, Shropshire RG14/14PN16071, Robert Morgan Roberts 1911

5"Census 1939 Shrewsbury M.B., Shropshire, England RG101/5184H/020/6 Letter Code: OILY" (RG101/5184H/020/6 Letter Code: OILY).
Text From Source: Name of person,Married name,Gender,Birthdate,Condition as to marriage,Rank, Profession or Occupation,Occupation comment,Comments
Trevor V ROBERTS,,M,21 OCT 1900,Married,Senior Clerk Engineering Works Accounts Representative,,
Myrtle ROBERTS,,F,23 MAR 1902,Married,Unpaid Domestic Duties,,
Maureen H ELLIS,Butt,F,29 MAR 1924,Single,Junior Clerk Engineering Works ? Department,,
Christopher Reginald ELLIS,,M,25 DEC 1928,,,,[Redacted 2016]
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Source: Census 1939 Shrewsbury M.B., Shropshire, England RG101/5184H/020/6 Letter Code: OILY, Census UK 1939 RG101/5184H/020/6 Letter Code: OILY

6"Chris Ellis".
7"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Orchard Myrtle Ellesmere 6a 726
Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).
8"Census 1911 Cork, Ireland".
Text From Source: Name,Relation,Religion,Education,Age,Occupation,Marriage Status,Marriage years,Total children,Children still living,Born,Irish Language,Infirmity
Frederick William ORCHARD,Head,Church of England,Read and Write,43,Army Pensioner,Married,16,11,10,England,,
May ORCHARD,Wife,Roman Catholic,Read and Write,34,Army Pensioner,Married,,,,Cork, City,,
Nellie May ORCHARD,Daughter,Roman Catholic,Read and Write,14,Scholar,Single,,,,England,,
Frederick Hugh ORCHARD,Son,Roman Catholic,Read and Write,13,Scholar,Single,,,,England,,
Hazel ORCHARD,Daughter,Roman Catholic,Read and Write,11,Scholar,Single,,,,England,,
Myrtle ORCHARD,Mother,Roman Catholic,Read and Write,9,Scholar,Single,,,,England,,
Charles Henry ORCHARD,Son,Roman Catholic,Read and Write,7,Scholar,Single,,,,England,,
Iris ORCHARD,Daughter,Roman Catholic,Read,6,Scholar,Single,,,,England,,
Oswald Roland ORCHARD,Son,Roman Catholic,Cannot Read,4,Scholar,Single,,,,England,,
John Reginald ORCHARD,Son,Roman Catholic,Cannot Read,1,,Single,,,,Cork, City,,
Louisa Mary ORCHARD,Daughter,Roman Catholic,Cannot Read,8m,,Single,,,,Cork, City,,
Ivy Esther ORCHARD,Head,Roman Catholic,Cannot Read,3,,Single,,,,Cork, City,,
9"FindMyPast". Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: passenger transcript details
Name: Mrs Myrtle ELLIS
Date of departure: 13 October 1927
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth: 1902 (calculated from age)
Age: 25
Marital status: Married
Sex: Female
Occupation: Housewife
Passenger recorded on: Page 16 of 24





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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Mr John ELLIS Page 16 of 24 View transcript
Miss Maureen ELLIS Page 16 of 24 View transcript



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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
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Where bound:
Square feet:
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Passengers on voyage:
ADRIATIC
124061
V W Hickson
White Star
New York, USA
15873
24562
343