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Family of William Henry NEILL and Sophia HOADLY

Husband: William Henry NEILL (1862- )
Wife: Sophia HOADLY (1862-1922)
Children: Frederick William NEILL (1896- )
Lilian Laura NEILL (1901-1988)
Marriage 1 Jan 1888 Gray's Inn Road, Middlesex1,2
The Parish Church, Holy Trinity, Gray's Inn Road, Middlesex

Husband: William Henry NEILL

Name: William Henry NEILL
Sex: Male
Father: William David NEILL (c. 1836- )
Mother: Jane ? (c. 1834- )
Birth Q4 1862 St Pancras, Middlesex3,4
Census 3 Apr 1881 (age 18) Blue Lion Road, St Pancras, Marylebone, Middlesex
RG11/0193/35/10
Census 5 Apr 1891 (age 28) Marylebone, London5
65 Marylebone Lane, Marylebone, London
Occupation 5 Apr 1891 (age 28) Cab Builder (Coach B.); Marylebone, London5
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 38) 7 Lloyd Square, Clerkenwell, St Philip, Finsbury, London6
RG13/253/40/9
Occupation Coachbuilder3
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 48) St Pancras, Middlesex7
127, Judd Street, St Pancras, London WC
Occupation 2 Apr 1911 (age 48) Mounting motor body; St Pancras, Middlesex7

Wife: Sophia HOADLY

Name: Sophia HOADLY
Sex: Female
Father: Henry HOADLY (1827-bef1899)
Mother: Louisa DAVIS (bef1830-1892)
Birth Q3 1862 Kensington, London6,8
No record of this event thus far in GRO Index [2008]
Census 2 Apr 1871 (age 7) Fulham, London, Middlesex9
4 Blyth Cottages, Fulham, London, Middlesex
Occupation 2 Apr 1871 (age 8) Scholar; Fulham, London, Middlesex9
Census 5 Apr 1891 (age 24) Marylebone, London5
65 Marylebone Lane, Marylebone, London
Occupation 5 Apr 1891 (age 28) Manageress of Dairy (milk); Marylebone, London5
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 38) 7 Lloyd Square, Clerkenwell, St Philip, Finsbury, London6
RG13/253/40/9
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 43) St Pancras, Middlesex7
127, Judd Street, St Pancras, London WC
Death Q4 1922 (age 56) St George Hanover Square, Middlesex10,11

Child 1: Frederick William NEILL

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Frederick William NEILL, c. 1938, age 42

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Frederick William NEILL, 1975, age 79

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Frederick William NEILL, c. 1938, age 42

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Frederick William NEILL, 1975, age 79

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Spouse: Margaret MCMORROW, 1975

Name: Frederick William NEILL6
Sex: Male
Spouse: Margaret MCMORROW ( - )
Birth Q1 1896 St Marylebone, London6,12
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 4-5) 7 Lloyd Square, Clerkenwell, St Philip, Finsbury, London
RG13/253/40/9
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 15) St Pancras, Middlesex7
127, Judd Street, St Pancras, London WC
Occupation 2 Apr 1911 (age 15) Errand boy; St Pancras, Middlesex7

Child 2: Lilian Laura NEILL

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Lilian Laura NEILL

Name: Lilian Laura NEILL6
Sex: Female
Spouse: Albert R JONES ( - )
Birth 26 Feb 1901 Clerkenwell, London6,13
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 1 mn) 7 Lloyd Square, Clerkenwell, St Philip, Finsbury, London6
RG13/253/40/9
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 9) St Pancras, Middlesex7
127, Judd Street, St Pancras, London WC
Death Q2 1988 (age 87) Bideford, Devon14

Note on Husband: William Henry NEILL - shared note

In the 1881 census, he was living with his parents in Blue Lion Road, St Pancras.

[RG11/0193/35/10]

Note on Wife: Sophia HOADLY (1) - shared note

Who was Annie Hoadly - a witness at Sophia's wedding? Could she be a wife of Alfred, Thomas one of her brothers?

The 1881 census index lists a Sophia Hadley age 16 as a servant at 25 Church Street, Chelsea, born in Kensington. [RG11/0076/40/28].

Note on Wife: Sophia HOADLY (2)

I am a decendent of Henry Hoadly and Louisa Davis; their daughter Sophia Hoadly (married to William Henry Neill) was my grandfather's mother. I may be able to get some additional information on Sophia Hoadly Neill if you are interested. She died before my mother was born (or shortly thereafter) but my mother remembers hearing a few things about her.

 

Yes, I am the granddaughter of Frederick William Neill. My mother, Margaret (she's 86, I'm 44, so I'm the late in life baby) was his daughter. She married my dad, an American GI, during WWII and came to him home in Alabama (of all places) after the war. She had a younger brother, Ronnie, who sadly was killed in North Africa during the war.

 

I am in daily contact with my mother and I will get my facts together about Sophia. I'll have to the get the story straight on this, but it is my understanding that Sophia and Henry ran a boarding house somewhere near the theater district in London or theater performers stayed in her boarding house. She contracted tuberculosis and passed away at a fairly young age. I do have a photo of Henry Neill that I can borrow from her and scan and e-mail to you. We don't seem to have any photos of Sophia.

 

In addition to my grandfather, Sophia and Henry also had a daughter, Lillie who married Albert Jones. Uncle Albert was a tailor and had a shop - oops, can't remember where. My Auntie Lillie was short, stocky, and a fantastic cook (I haven't been to England in 20 years, but the last time I was there we visited Auntie Lillie in Devon and even then in her advanced years she was an excellent cook) - these are traits I assume she inherited from her mother. They had two sons but my mother has lost contact with them over the years.10

Note on Wife: Sophia HOADLY (3)

Graham:

 

I spoke with my mother and told her about finding you all - she was really amazed and quite taken aback. Sometimes the globe gets a little smaller.....

 

She remembers that her grandparents, Henry and Sophia (pronounced So-FI-ah and not like Sophia Loren, as I would say) lived on Panton Street. As I told you before, she ran a boarding house across from some theaters. Apparently a famous actor, Jack Buchanon (have you heard of him) stayed there for a time. Sophia contracted tuberculosis and died in 1922 when my mother was only 2 years old. My mom has never met any of Sophia's siblings - in fact I don't think she knew much about them at all. She does remember hearing my Auntie Lillie talking about her aunts who were in the tailoring or dressmaking business (which makes sense since my Auntie Lillie's husband, Albert, was a tailor; perhaps they introduced her to Uncle Albert or his family; Liliie and Albert lived in Harrow where he had a shop; she eventually moved to Devon).

 

I don't ever remember hearing either one of my grandparents talking about Henry or Sophia but I suppose by the time I came along and was old enough to ask questions, Henry and Sophia had both been dead for many years. My grandparents were of the quasi-Victorian sort of non-emotional stiff upper lip types and really didn't talk about the old days that much. My grandfather was in the motorcycle business - he was a service manager for AJ&S Matchless motorbikes and raced motorbikes in his youth. Growing up my mother lived in Bexleyheath in Kent; they moved to Welling just before WWII. That house was bombed but was rebuilt and my grandparents lived there until their deaths ...

 

Where did all the other Hoadly's end up - in London or thereabouts? It seems like they had lived in the same general area of London for years as had the Neill's. Henry Neill's father had been a master chimney sweep (I will never look at the chimney sweep scene in Mary Poppins the same way again!!) He's the Henry we have a photo of - not Henry Hoadly - sorry in my excitement I got my Henry's mixed up. He was a very short man so I can assume that Sophia was not a tall woman either.

 

 

When you get a chance, give me a brief rundown and the other Hoadly siblings - perhaps something will spark my mother's memory.

 

God bless and have a Merry Christmas!

 

Karen

Sources

1Parish Register.
Text From Source: Parish Register
2Marriage certificate.
Text From Source: Marriage certificate (GRO St Catherine's House)
Assessment: Primary evidence.
Text From Source: Marriage Certificate:

1888 Marriage Solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Holy Trinity Grays Inn Road in the County of Middlesex
No: 181
When Married: First January 1888
Name and Surname: William Henry Neill
Age: 25
Condition: Bachelor
Rank or Profession: Coach Builder
Residence at time of Marriage: Trinity Parish
Father's Name and Surname: William David Neill
Rank or Profession of Father: Ostler
Name and Surname: Sophia Hoadly
Age: 22
Condition: Spinster
Rank or Profession: -
Residence at time of Marriage: Do.
Father's Name and Surname: Henry Hoadly
Rank or Profession of Father: Coachpainter
Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after banns by me Fredk Thorne
This marriage was Solemnised between us: William Henry Neill
Sophia Hoadly
In the presence of us: Henry Hoadly
Annie Hoadly


CERTIFIED to be a true copy of an entry in the certified copy of a Register of Marriages in the Registration District of Holborn
Given at the GENERAL REGISTER OFFICE, under the Seal of the said Office, the 15th day of April 1992
St Catherine's House.
31881 census entry.
Text From Source: 1881 census entry PRO Chancery Lane [Microfilm]
4"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Births Dec 1862 (>99%)
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NEILL William Henry Pancras 1b 63
Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).
5"Census 1891 (William Henry Neill) Marylebone, London RG12/92/89/32".
Text From Source: Wm Hy Neill Head 28 London St Pancras
Sophia Neill Wife 24 London Kensington
Assessment: Primary evidence.
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Source: Census 1891 (William Henry Neill) Marylebone, London RG12/92/89/32, Sophia Neill 91

6Public Record Office, "www.census.pro.gov.uk - 1901 Census" (Internet).
Internet. Call Number: http://www.census.pro.gov.uk (electronic).
7"Census 1911 (William Neill) St Pancras, Middlesex RG14PN695".
Text From Source: Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born:
NEILL, WILLIAM HEAD MARRIED M 48 MOUNTING MOTOR BODY LONDON KING CROSS
NEILL, SOPHIA WIFE MARRIED 22 F 43 LONDON KENNINGTON
NEILL, FREDRICK SON M 15 ERRAND BOY LONDON MARYLEBONE
NEILL, LAURA DAUGHTER F 9 LONDON KING CROSS

NEILL SOPHIA (RG14PN695 RD9 SD2 ED12 SN542)
Address 127 JUDD ST W C County London
District St Pancras Subdistrict South St Pancras
Enumeration District 12 Parish St Pancras
8"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Questionable.
Text From Source: Births Sep 1862 (>99%)
HOADLEY Sophia Kensington 1a 96
Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).
9"Census 1871 (Henry Hoadly) Fulham, London, Middlesex RG10/59/74/11" (RG10/59/74/11).
Text From Source: Henry HOADLY Head M Male 43 Maidstone, Kent, England Coach Painter
Louisa HOADLY Wife M Female 38 North Newington, Oxford, England
Ellen HOADLY daur Female Un 13 Kensington, Middlesex, England Scholar
Emily HOADLY daur Female Un 12 Kensington, Middlesex, England Scholar
Samuel HOADLY Son Male Un 9 Kensington, Middlesex, England Scholar
Sophia HOADLY daur Female Un 7 Kensington, Middlesex, England Scholar
Ann HOADLY daur Female Un 5 Kensington, Middlesex, England Scholar
Thomas HOADLY Son Male 3 Kensington, Middlesex, England
RG10/59/74/11. Cit. Date: 2 April 1871. Assessment: Primary evidence.
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Source: Census 1871 (Henry Hoadly) Fulham, London, Middlesex RG10/59/74/11, Henry Hoadly71

10Karen May, "Info supplied by Karen May" (Email).
Text From Source: I found your website quite by accident - congratulations on a fantastic job with the family tree!

I am a decendent of Henry Hoadly and Louisa Davis; their daughter Sophia Hoadly (married to William Henry Neill) was my grandfather's mother. I may be able to get some additional information on Sophia Hoadly Neill if you are interested. She died before my mother was born (or shortly thereafter)
This information from emails to Graham Hoadly from Karen May the G G Grandaughter of Henry Hoadly.
Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Graham Hoadly.
11GRO Indexes.
Text From Source: BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: JAMES, Benjamin
Registration District: Help St. George Hanover Square
County: London
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 343

BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: STOREY, Jane
Registration District: Help St. George Hanover Square
County: London
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 343
Text From Source: Deaths Dec 1922:

Neill, Sophia 56 St George Hanover Square 1a 490
Family Records Centre, 1 Myddleton Street, LONDON, EC1R 1UW. Tel: 020 8392 5300.
12"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Births Mar 1896
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Neill Frederick William Marylebone 1a 513
Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).
13Ibid. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: Births Jun 1901 (>99%)
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NEILL Lilian Laura Holborn 1b 648
14"GRO Indexes". Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source:
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Lilian Laura Jones
Name: Lilian Laura Jones
Birth Date: 26 Feb 1901
Death Registration Month/Year: Jun 1988
Age at death (estimated): 87
Registration district: Bideford
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 21
Page: 896