Family of William Henry NEILL and Sophia HOADLY

Husband:	William Henry NEILL (1862- )
Wife:	Sophia HOADLY (1866-1922)
Children:	Frederick William NEILL (1896- )
	Lilian Laura NEILL (1901-1988)
Marriage	1 Jan 1888	Gray's Inn Road, Middlesex 1,2

Additional Information

Marriage

The Parish Church, Holy Trinity, Gray's Inn Road, Middlesex

Husband: William Henry NEILL

	William Henry NEILL, 1927?, age 65		William Henry NEILL, 1927?, age 65, Henry Margaret and Ronnie Neill

Name:	William Henry NEILL
Sex:	Male
Father:	William David NEILL (1836?- )
Mother:	Jane ? (1834?- )
Birth	Q4 1862	St Pancras, Middlesex 3,4
Census (1)	3 Apr 1881 (age 18)	Blue Lion Road, St Pancras, Marylebone, Middlesex
Census (2)	5 Apr 1891 (age 28)	Marylebone, London 5
Occupation (1)	5 Apr 1891 (age 28)	Cab Builder (Coach B.); Marylebone, London 5
Census (3)	31 Mar 1901 (age 38)	7 Lloyd Square, Clerkenwell, St Philip, Finsbury, London 6
Occupation (2)		Coachbuilder 3
Census (4)	2 Apr 1911 (age 48)	St Pancras, Middlesex 7
Occupation (3)	2 Apr 1911 (age 48)	Mounting motor body; St Pancras, Middlesex 7

Additional Information

Census (1)	RG11/0193/35/10
Census (2)	65 Marylebone Lane, Marylebone, London
Census (3)	RG13/253/40/9
Census (4)	127, Judd Street, St Pancras, London WC

Wife: Sophia HOADLY

Name:	Sophia HOADLY
Sex:	Female
Father:	Henry HOADLY (1827-1899)
Mother:	Louisa DAVIS (bef1830-1892)
Birth	1866	Kensington, London 6
Census (1)	2 Apr 1871 (age 7 (!))	Fulham, London, Middlesex 8
Occupation (1)	2 Apr 1871 (age 4-5)	Scholar; Fulham, London, Middlesex 8
Census (2)	5 Apr 1891 (age 24)	Marylebone, London 5
Occupation (2)	5 Apr 1891 (age 24-25)	Manageress of Dairy (milk); Marylebone, London 5
Census (3)	31 Mar 1901 (age 34-35)	7 Lloyd Square, Clerkenwell, St Philip, Finsbury, London 6
Census (4)	2 Apr 1911 (age 43 (!))	St Pancras, Middlesex 7
Death	Q4 1922 (age 56)	St George Hanover Square, Middlesex 9,10

Additional Information

Birth	No record of this event thus far in GRO Index [2008]
Census (1)	4 Blyth Cottages, Fulham, London, Middlesex
Census (2)	65 Marylebone Lane, Marylebone, London
Census (3)	RG13/253/40/9
Census (4)	127, Judd Street, St Pancras, London WC

Child 1: Frederick William NEILL

	Frederick William NEILL, 1938?, age 42		Frederick William NEILL, 1975, age 79		Frederick William NEILL, 1938?, age 42, Frederick William Neill late 1930s		Frederick William NEILL, 1975, age 79, Fred and Margaret Neill 1975 Kent

	Spouse: Margaret MCMORROW, 1975

Name:	Frederick William NEILL 6
Sex:	Male
Spouse:	Margaret MCMORROW ( - )
Birth	Q1 1896	St Marylebone, London 6,11
Census (1)	31 Mar 1901 (age 4-5)	7 Lloyd Square, Clerkenwell, St Philip, Finsbury, London
Census (2)	2 Apr 1911 (age 15)	St Pancras, Middlesex 7
Occupation	2 Apr 1911 (age 15)	Errand boy; St Pancras, Middlesex 7

Additional Information

Census (1)	RG13/253/40/9
Census (2)	127, Judd Street, St Pancras, London WC

Child 2: Lilian Laura NEILL

	Lilian Laura NEILL

Name:	Lilian Laura NEILL 6
Sex:	Female
Spouse:	Albert R JONES ( - )
Birth	26 Feb 1901	Clerkenwell, London 6,12
Census (1)	31 Mar 1901 (age 1 mn)	7 Lloyd Square, Clerkenwell, St Philip, Finsbury, London 6
Census (2)	2 Apr 1911 (age 9 (!))	St Pancras, Middlesex 7
Death	Q2 1988 (age 87)	Bideford, Devon 13

Additional Information

Census (1)	RG13/253/40/9
Census (2)	127, Judd Street, St Pancras, London WC

Note on Husband: William Henry NEILL - shared note

In the 1881 census, he was living with his parents in Blue Lion Road, St Pancras.

[RG11/0193/35/10]

Note on Wife: Sophia HOADLY (1) - shared note

Who was Annie Hoadly - a witness at Sophia's wedding? Could she be a wife of Alfred, Thomas one of her brothers?

The 1881 census index lists a Sophia Hadley age 16 as a servant at 25 Church Street, Chelsea, born in Kensington. [RG11/0076/40/28].

Note on Wife: Sophia HOADLY (2)

I am a decendent of Henry Hoadly and Louisa Davis; their daughter Sophia Hoadly (married to William Henry Neill) was my grandfather's mother. I may be able to get some additional information on Sophia Hoadly Neill if you are interested. She died before my mother was born (or shortly thereafter) but my mother remembers hearing a few things about her.

 

Yes, I am the granddaughter of Frederick William Neill. My mother, Margaret (she's 86, I'm 44, so I'm the late in life baby) was his daughter. She married my dad, an American GI, during WWII and came to him home in Alabama (of all places) after the war. She had a younger brother, Ronnie, who sadly was killed in North Africa during the war.

 

I am in daily contact with my mother and I will get my facts together about Sophia. I'll have to the get the story straight on this, but it is my understanding that Sophia and Henry ran a boarding house somewhere near the theater district in London or theater performers stayed in her boarding house. She contracted tuberculosis and passed away at a fairly young age. I do have a photo of Henry Neill that I can borrow from her and scan and e-mail to you. We don't seem to have any photos of Sophia.

 

In addition to my grandfather, Sophia and Henry also had a daughter, Lillie who married Albert Jones. Uncle Albert was a tailor and had a shop - oops, can't remember where. My Auntie Lillie was short, stocky, and a fantastic cook (I haven't been to England in 20 years, but the last time I was there we visited Auntie Lillie in Devon and even then in her advanced years she was an excellent cook) - these are traits I assume she inherited from her mother. They had two sons but my mother has lost contact with them over the years.⁹

Note on Wife: Sophia HOADLY (3)

Graham:

 

I spoke with my mother and told her about finding you all - she was really amazed and quite taken aback. Sometimes the globe gets a little smaller.....

 

She remembers that her grandparents, Henry and Sophia (pronounced So-FI-ah and not like Sophia Loren, as I would say) lived on Panton Street. As I told you before, she ran a boarding house across from some theaters. Apparently a famous actor, Jack Buchanon (have you heard of him) stayed there for a time. Sophia contracted tuberculosis and died in 1922 when my mother was only 2 years old. My mom has never met any of Sophia's siblings - in fact I don't think she knew much about them at all. She does remember hearing my Auntie Lillie talking about her aunts who were in the tailoring or dressmaking business (which makes sense since my Auntie Lillie's husband, Albert, was a tailor; perhaps they introduced her to Uncle Albert or his family; Liliie and Albert lived in Harrow where he had a shop; she eventually moved to Devon).

 

I don't ever remember hearing either one of my grandparents talking about Henry or Sophia but I suppose by the time I came along and was old enough to ask questions, Henry and Sophia had both been dead for many years. My grandparents were of the quasi-Victorian sort of non-emotional stiff upper lip types and really didn't talk about the old days that much. My grandfather was in the motorcycle business - he was a service manager for AJ&S Matchless motorbikes and raced motorbikes in his youth. Growing up my mother lived in Bexleyheath in Kent; they moved to Welling just before WWII. That house was bombed but was rebuilt and my grandparents lived there until their deaths ...

 

Where did all the other Hoadly's end up - in London or thereabouts? It seems like they had lived in the same general area of London for years as had the Neill's. Henry Neill's father had been a master chimney sweep (I will never look at the chimney sweep scene in Mary Poppins the same way again!!) He's the Henry we have a photo of - not Henry Hoadly - sorry in my excitement I got my Henry's mixed up. He was a very short man so I can assume that Sophia was not a tall woman either.

 

 

When you get a chance, give me a brief rundown and the other Hoadly siblings - perhaps something will spark my mother's memory.

 

God bless and have a Merry Christmas!

 

Karen

Sources

1	Parish Register.

2

Marriage certificate. Assessment: Primary evidence. Text From Source: Marriage Certificate: 1888 Marriage Solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Holy Trinity Grays Inn Road in the County of Middlesex No: 181 When Married: First January 1888 Name and Surname: William Henry Neill Age: 25 Condition: Bachelor Rank or Profession: Coach Builder Residence at time of Marriage: Trinity Parish Father's Name and Surname: William David Neill Rank or Profession of Father: Ostler Name and Surname: Sophia Hoadly Age: 22 Condition: Spinster Rank or Profession: - Residence at time of Marriage: Do. Father's Name and Surname: Henry Hoadly Rank or Profession of Father: Coachpainter Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after banns by me Fredk Thorne This marriage was Solemnised between us: William Henry Neill Sophia Hoadly In the presence of us: Henry Hoadly Annie Hoadly CERTIFIED to be a true copy of an entry in the certified copy of a Register of Marriages in the Registration District of Holborn Given at the GENERAL REGISTER OFFICE, under the Seal of the said Office, the 15th day of April 1992

St Catherine's House.

3	1881 census entry.

4	"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence. Text From Source: Births Dec 1862 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEILL William Henry Pancras 1b 63
	Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).

	Source: Free BMD website, marriage certificate - Lucy Jaques Alexander Davis - 25Dec 1902

5	"Census 1891 (William Henry Neill) Marylebone, London RG12/92/89/32". Assessment: Primary evidence.

	Source: Census 1891 (William Henry Neill) Marylebone, London RG12/92/89/32, Sophia Neill 91

6	Public Record Office, "www.census.pro.gov.uk - 1901 Census" (Internet).
	Internet. Call Number: http://www.census.pro.gov.uk (electronic).

7	"Census 1911 St Pancras, Middlesex RG14PN695 (William Neill)".

8	"Census 1871 (Henry Hoadly) Fulham, London, Middlesex RG10/59/74/11" (RG10/59/74/11). RG10/59/74/11. Cit. Date: 2 April 1871. Assessment: Primary evidence.

	Source: Census 1871 (Henry Hoadly) Fulham, London, Middlesex RG10/59/74/11, Henry Hoadly71

9	Karen May, "Info supplied by Karen May" (Email). Assessment: Secondary evidence.
	Graham Hoadly.

10	GRO Indexes. Text From Source: Deaths Dec 1922: Neill, Sophia 56 St George Hanover Square 1a 490
	Family Records Centre, 1 Myddleton Street LONDON EC1R 1UW. Tel: 020 8392 5300.

	Source: GRO Indexes, Frederich Charles Jaques Martha Kearns Marr 1907

11	"Information from Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths website: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/" (Internet). Assessment: Secondary evidence. Text From Source: Births Mar 1896 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neill Frederick William Marylebone 1a 513
	Internet. Call Number: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ (electronic).

	Source: Free BMD website, marriage certificate - Lucy Jaques Alexander Davis - 25Dec 1902

12	Ibid. Assessment: Secondary evidence. Text From Source: Births Jun 1901 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEILL Lilian Laura Holborn 1b 648

	Source: Free BMD website, marriage certificate - Lucy Jaques Alexander Davis - 25Dec 1902

13

"GRO Indexes". Assessment: Secondary evidence. Text From Source: England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Lilian Laura Jones Name: Lilian Laura Jones Birth Date: 26 Feb 1901 Death Registration Month/Year: Jun 1988 Age at death (estimated): 87 Registration district: Bideford Inferred County: Devon Volume: 21 Page: 896